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#265591 29-Jan-2020 20:14

It's time to replace the rubbish extractor fan above our hob. Can anyone recommend an ceiling mounted/island style rangehood unit? I've started researching and discovered very few options available that can be ceiling suspended and will look nice(ish) from both the back and front.

Surely there must be more out there that I'm just not finding - pricespy only returned 6 options and half of those are wall mounted. Trade Depot appear to have a Vogue brand unit in stock, but I can't find any reviews and I've never dealt with them before.

Miele is a bit pricey with an RRP of $8K - I could get custom bent stainless and box in the chimney of wall style unit for that price.

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#2409912 29-Jan-2020 21:42

https://siriusbrand.com/ceiling-cassette-rangehood-collection/

I would recommend the models from above link that support SEM external motors rather than with built in extraction unit. The SEM motors are very powerful and it will.keep your kitchen quiet as motors are external. We bought a Sirius canopy rangehood with SEM7 wall motor. Harvey Norman stores can do special orders for Sirius rangehoods. 6 year warranty as well and made in Italy.

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#2409916 29-Jan-2020 21:48

billgates: https://siriusbrand.com/ceiling-cassette-rangehood-collection/

I would recommend the models from above link that support SEM external motors rather than with built in extraction unit. The SEM motors are very powerful and it will.keep your kitchen quiet as motors are external. We bought a Sirius canopy rangehood with SEM7 wall motor. Harvey Norman stores can do special orders for Sirius rangehoods. 6 year warranty as well and made in Italy.

Thanks! I can't fit a cassette unit in because of the roof profile, I can only just get the duct run around the angle I have with a bit of clearance. But I see they have some nice looking options I'll need to look through in their other series.

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#2409950 29-Jan-2020 23:43

Absolutely agree with @billgates on the external motor. We installed a Schweigen unit a year ago and it made a HUGE difference. Much higher air flow rates and really quiet. We no longer need to stop talking when the extract fan is on!

https://www.schweigen.co.nz/silent-rangehood-range/

I assume you've already got a big hole in the ceiling, but if not I'd recommend that you install an island one that drops to a lower height. Much more efficient in the amount of smell and steam that's extracted.

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#2409968 30-Jan-2020 07:37

MartinGZ:
https://www.schweigen.co.nz/silent-rangehood-range/

I assume you've already got a big hole in the ceiling, but if not I'd recommend that you install an island one that drops to a lower height. Much more efficient in the amount of smell and steam that's extracted.

These would probably be at the top end of the budget I'm looking at and that would be contingent on them living upto their quietness claims. The airflow stats on these appear to be about double the standard big brands which would be nice when it comes to removing steam etc...

It's interesting that they still sell them with halogen bulbs rather than LED as standard.

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#2409971 30-Jan-2020 07:46

mrdrifter:

Trade Depot appear to have a Vogue brand unit in stock, but I can't find any reviews and I've never dealt with them before.

There have been threads about Trade Depot on here. Based on these, my personal experience and that of a family friend, I would advise you to shop elsewhere.

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#2409973 30-Jan-2020 07:49

SirHumphreyAppleby:
There have been threads about Trade Depot on here. Based on these, my personal experience and that of a family friend, I would advise you to shop elsewhere.

I found a couple of the threads last night and have made the decision to steer clear of them, it sounds downright painful having to deal with them for even the basics like shipping promptly, let alone if something goes wrong!

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#2410001 30-Jan-2020 09:26

mrdrifter:
MartinGZ:
https://www.schweigen.co.nz/silent-rangehood-range/

I assume you've already got a big hole in the ceiling, but if not I'd recommend that you install an island one that drops to a lower height. Much more efficient in the amount of smell and steam that's extracted.

These would probably be at the top end of the budget I'm looking at and that would be contingent on them living upto their quietness claims. The airflow stats on these appear to be about double the standard big brands which would be nice when it comes to removing steam etc...

It's interesting that they still sell them with halogen bulbs rather than LED as standard.

We just have a wall mounted cheapy but I found that most of the noise came from air flow in the filters and ducting rather than motor noise. The duct was just light aluminium flex but surrounding it with sound deadening under the outer cover made a big difference.

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#2410007 30-Jan-2020 09:53

Bung: We just have a wall mounted cheapy but I found that most of the noise came from air flow in the filters and ducting rather than motor noise. The duct was just light aluminium flex but surrounding it with sound deadening under the outer cover made a big difference.

For new install, I would recommend semi rigid or rigid ducting that should be as wide as possible as your rangehood allows without using any downsize adapter. We looked for a rangehood that had 200mm ducting hole on the external motor and also on the rangehood itself so that we could run 200mm ducting natively without involving any downsize adapter (i.e going from 200mm to 150mm ducting to fit your rangehood or motor). Also buy a rangehood that is minimum 100mm wider than the width of your cooktop on both sides.

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#2410017 30-Jan-2020 10:23

I'd also recommend checking the availability and price of replacement filters. Our aging Smeg needs a new set of filters after many years of service, but the cost of new filters is about $20 less than a whole new rangehood (installation not included).

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#2410065 30-Jan-2020 10:43

BlueShift:
I'd also recommend checking the availability and price of replacement filters. Our aging Smeg needs a new set of filters after many years of service, but the cost of new filters is about $20 less than a whole new rangehood (installation not included).

I would also recommend buying a rangehood that has baffle filters. They last you the life of rangehood and do not clog up with oil and you can throw them in your dishwasher.

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#2410077 30-Jan-2020 11:11

billgates:

I would also recommend buying a rangehood that has baffle filters. They last you the life of rangehood and do not clog up with oil and you can throw them in your dishwasher.

That was something I was factoring in as right now there is only a really old extraction fan in the ceiling that is ineffective both due to age and blockages

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#2410132 30-Jan-2020 12:44

@mrdrifter. Yeh the catalogue says halogen, but I asked our installer and he said it came with LEDs. Not sure if that was across the range or just our model, but it did indeed come with LEDs.

Noise and flowrates. IMHO, a few comments up there that may be confusing.

Motor in hood.

It's generally accepted that the main noise you hear is the motor, not the air movement. That is why there is a whole market for external motor units. In-unit motors are the most common as the units are considerably cheaper.

@Bung. Not quite sure what you did there, but if the batts were put on top of part of the unit itself (as I read it) then I suggest that probably dampened any vibration generated noise rather than noise from the ducting itself.

Airflow rates will improve if you use smooth bore ducting.

External motor.

As I stated, noise levels are much lower and flow rates much higher. Generally these units have a higher air flow motor than in-hood units.We can now get pretty much total extraction from the cooker area if required.

In our case we were advised not to use smooth bore solid ducting as flexi-ducting helps baffle the noise transmission from the external motor. The units are powerful enough to give the required flow rate with large bore flexi-ducting (model/manufacturer dependent I suppose). In our case we need to turn the unit off or on to lowest setting (or crack open an adjacent window) when we light the log burner. If we don't, the log burner won't draw in that cold starting phase and fills the room with smoke!!

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#2410435 30-Jan-2020 21:22

It seems as though the only real options are from the above brands and a few niche products when it comes to Island range hoods these days. I suspect it's because the mass market house builders have moved back to putting the hob against a wall again after a few years of putting them in the island. It really limits options. Even the main stream brands like F&P and Bosch although they show this style on their websites, don't actual list any for sale.