Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.




16110 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

#271785 26-May-2020 21:25
Send private message quote this post

We've moved our clothes drier and the supplied cord doesn't reach the outlet. Putting in a new outlet is quite messy.

 

I can buy a standard domestic extension cord which has 1mm square conductors, but for something like a clothes drier I wonder if the extra heavy duty cords with 1.5mm conductors would be better. If so, where can you find short 1m or 2pm cords in white?


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2
6558 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2492301 26-May-2020 21:32
Send private message quote this post

1m would not require a heavy duty ext lead it's still just plugging into a 10A plug

 

Edit: Bet the power cord coming out of the drier is not heavy duty


197 posts

Master Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  #2492312 26-May-2020 21:46
Send private message quote this post

Heavy duty/normal duty refers to the thickness of the sheathing, and its resistance to damage.

 

Conductor size is separate.


 
 
 
 


872 posts

Ultimate Geek

Subscriber

  #2492313 26-May-2020 21:48
Send private message quote this post

1 meter is probably okay with 1.5mm conductors, but I have seen longer lengths cause issues to outlets and appliances (especially with a load like a dryer) - appliance plugs welded to extension leads and power sockets crisped




16110 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  #2492324 26-May-2020 22:10
Send private message quote this post

Thanks all. I noticed heavy duty at 1.0mm and heavy duty and 1.5mm. if I can get away with a good quality standard household cord that's easy, I just figured with high load appliances used regularly I should go for a heavy as I could.

5278 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  #2492326 26-May-2020 22:11
Send private message quote this post

What does the label on your dryer say about how many watts it draws?


3235 posts

Uber Geek


  #2492328 26-May-2020 22:17
Send private message quote this post

or you could be like the majority  of people and buy the cheapest one you can find and not give it a 2nd thought.





Common sense is not as common as you think.




16110 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  #2492329 26-May-2020 22:19
Send private message quote this post

DarthKermit:

What does the label on your dryer say about how many watts it draws?



Not sure, assume 10A. Can look tomorrow. F&P tumble drier.

 
 
 
 


872 posts

Ultimate Geek

Subscriber

  #2492330 26-May-2020 22:21
Send private message quote this post

vexxxboy:

 

or you could be like the majority  of people and buy the cheapest one you can find and not give it a 2nd thought.

 

 

Yeah, not for a dryer lol

 

Seen it a few times if the leads are around 5+ meters long, nearly burn the house down


3336 posts

Uber Geek

Subscriber

  #2492407 26-May-2020 23:28
Send private message quote this post

snnet:

vexxxboy:


or you could be like the majority  of people and buy the cheapest one you can find and not give it a 2nd thought.



Yeah, not for a dryer lol


Seen it a few times if the leads are around 5+ meters long, nearly burn the house down



The usual vented F&P dryers are rated 8 amps max. I can't read the cord any further than MM Cables something something 75C but certainly not 1.5mm.

What were the circumstances that the extension cords "nearly burnt the house down"?

872 posts

Ultimate Geek

Subscriber

  #2492426 27-May-2020 05:35
Send private message quote this post

Bung:The usual vented F&P dryers are rated 8 amps max. I can't read the cord any further than MM Cables something something 75C but certainly not 1.5mm.

What were the circumstances that the extension cords "nearly burnt the house down"?

 

If you read other posts on this page I've said what I've seen - crisped/blackened power sockets etc

 

You'll find most dryer instructions will also stipulate (along with dishwashers etc) that extension cords aren't to be used

 

I don't overly care, I'm not the extension cord police, so if someone wants to do it they'll do it and what happens happens. Just putting it out there what I've come across quite a bit.




16110 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  #2492428 27-May-2020 06:29
Send private message quote this post

Thanks for point out that an extension cord isn't recommended, I looked and found it in the manual.

 

If there's an actual risk then I can get an electrician to replace the cord with a longer heavy duty cord, I guess. Shifting stacked appliances is really quite difficult though. If having a good quality extension cord is ok then I'll do that. Any further thoughts? I did mention to my electrician I was looking for an extension cord and he wasn't worried but I'll double check with him.


3336 posts

Uber Geek

Subscriber

  #2492435 27-May-2020 07:13
Send private message quote this post

snnet:

If you read other posts on this page I've said what I've seen - crisped/blackened power sockets etc


You'll find most dryer instructions will also stipulate (along with dishwashers etc) that extension cords aren't to be used


I don't overly care, I'm not the extension cord police, so if someone wants to do it they'll do it and what happens happens. Just putting it out there what I've come across quite a bit.



Blackened power sockets aren't the result of extension cords they can happen with the appliance cord if the socket or plug are faulty. Sockets get loose, some plugs have been known to have bad connections from flex to pin. I seem to remember Goldair heaters being bad for hot plugs. I'm not disputing that it's better to have the socket close to the appliance but in my kitchen the dishwasher needs a 1m cord to reach the socket and I have no concerns at all about that. I would not use a power strip with its unreliable thermal breaker.

9745 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  #2492436 27-May-2020 07:14
Send private message quote this post

snnet:

 

If you read other posts on this page I've said what I've seen - crisped/blackened power sockets etc

 

 

whats that got to do with the size of the conductors in the cord? seems like a crap socket or plug to me.

 

manufactures put the recommendation in the manual to cover their asses. 1m is nothing, next to no voltage drop over that distance. and a 1mm2 cable generally rated at 10+amps for that distance with a .2% voltage drop.

 

Just buy a decent brand extension cord and stop worrying about it.

 

 




16110 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  #2492437 27-May-2020 07:19
Send private message quote this post

Is the thicker conductor in heavy duty cords just to reduce voltage drop? If so then I have no concerns and will just buy a decent consumer brand. I don't really want a bright orange cord in the laundry, but if it was necessary we'd do it.

 

I have noticed the cord and plug for one of my heaters in the laundry gets quite warm when run for an extended period, so I only run it on half power now, and not for too long. 


1017 posts

Uber Geek


  #2492461 27-May-2020 08:13
Send private message quote this post

If you are that worried about it, make your own cable, it will cost probably 10 times the price but you know the components. I am talking about proper HPM plug and socket, not cheap Chinese plug and socket at bunnings.

 

The alternative is get a heavy duty IEC computer lead that you will probably have lying around, cut off the IEC connector and replace with an extension cord socket once you are happy with the cable diameter.

 

Voltage drop is not the issue, the quality of the plug and socket it the issue.

 

John





I know enough to be dangerous


 1 | 2
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic





Twitter and LinkedIn »



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Soul Machines joins forces with the World Health Organization
Posted 13-Jul-2020 18:00


Chorus completes the build and commissioning of two new core Ethernet switches
Posted 8-Jul-2020 09:48


National Institute for Health Innovation develops treatment app for gambling
Posted 6-Jul-2020 16:25


Nokia 2.3 to be available in New Zealand
Posted 6-Jul-2020 12:30


Menulog change colours as parent company merges with Dutch food delivery service
Posted 2-Jul-2020 07:53


Techweek2020 goes digital to make it easier for Kiwis to connect and learn
Posted 2-Jul-2020 07:48


Catalyst Cloud launches new Solutions Hub to support their kiwi Partners and Customers
Posted 2-Jul-2020 07:44


Microsoft to help New Zealand job seekers acquire new digital skills needed for the COVID-19 economy
Posted 2-Jul-2020 07:41


Hewlett Packard Enterprise introduces new HPE GreenLake cloud services
Posted 24-Jun-2020 08:07


New cloud data protection services from Hewlett Packard Enterprise
Posted 24-Jun-2020 07:58


Hewlett Packard Enterprise unveils HPE Ezmeral, new software portfolio and brand
Posted 24-Jun-2020 07:10


Apple reveals new developer technologies to foster the next generation of apps
Posted 23-Jun-2020 15:30


Poly introduces solutions for Microsoft Teams Rooms
Posted 23-Jun-2020 15:14


Lenovo launches new ThinkPad P Series mobile workstations
Posted 23-Jun-2020 09:17


Lenovo brings Linux certification to ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation portfolio
Posted 23-Jun-2020 08:56



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Support Geekzone »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.