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#302839 27-Dec-2022 11:54

Hi team,

First off, thanks for your kind advice on my other thread regarding the fridge cabinet sizing - a solution has been found which allows for a very decent size fridge (450L~) and the ability to remove the cabinets should this be needed in the future.

I'm in the market for a 60cm wall oven, the budget is 2k max but I'm a bit confused as to what I should go for.

Miele is out of budget range.
Bosch 71L Series 4 - HBA574EB0A - $1,899.00 Cheapest Bosch with pyrolytic function, Made in Turkey, ranked 5th overall by Consumer NZ (March 2022 testing)
Electrolux 72L UltimateTaste 500 EVE614DSE - $1,884.00 Cheapest Electrolux with pyrolytic, Made in Australia, cannot find a single non-5 star review.
AEG 8 Function SteamBake Oven BEK455320M - $1,629.00 Not pyrolytic, 5-year warranty, Made in???
Bosch 71L Series 4 HBA534ES0A - $1,489.00 Cheapest Bosch but no pyrolytic function, Made in Turkey
Beko 72L Multifunction Aeroperfect BBO6851PDX - $1,289.00 Ok it's a BEKO but it's a lot of oven for the money, 5 year warranty with pyrolytic and steam.

Any other suggestions? Thank you 🙏

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#3014236 27-Dec-2022 12:07

I suggest you don’t buy a Smeg. Great cooking functions but abysmal build quality. We are sick of having to keep repairing it, so will be replaced, but probably with a Miele, which you have excluded due cost.

Get pyrolytic if you can. This function is well worth the extra expense.

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#3014287 27-Dec-2022 12:29

Dingbatt:

I suggest you don’t buy a Smeg. Great cooking functions but abysmal build quality. We are sick of having to keep repairing it, so will be replaced, but probably with a Miele, which you have excluded due cost.

Get pyrolytic if you can. This function is well worth the extra expense.

Thanks - are Smeg made in Italy? bit of a suprise.

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#3014288 27-Dec-2022 12:47

I see no F&P on the list, but that's probably for good reason. A family member has one installed a couple of years ago (replacing and older F&P). Heating is uneven, even in fan forced mode. UI is worse than the old as it has touch-sensitive buttons and fewer of them. On one occasion the oven was found to be on, seemingly without any user input. There may have been accidental contact, but it's something we're keeping an eye on. Mechanical buttons seem much more appropriate for such appliances.

Our Bosch dryer is great, so I'd probably lean more towards that over the other brands you mention.

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#3014290 27-Dec-2022 13:10

Agree with above re F&P. For my Sis InL their stainless steel facia around the glass oven door window came adrift under warranty. F&P fixed, then 2yr out of warranty it came adrift again. I had an online chat with Selleys and applied their recommended heat resistant glue. So far after 6 yrs it is still holding. Don't know what F&P used but it was useless.

Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.

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#3014292 27-Dec-2022 13:21

F&P are certainly a shadow of their former self.

Touch controls on an oven? Who thought that was a good idea, as wet hands are very likely to be encountered in a kitchen environment.

You can't beat knobs and dials for basic tactile functions I reckon. Same goes for vehicles.

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#3014293 27-Dec-2022 13:26

Dingbatt:Get pyrolytic if you can. This function is well worth the extra expense.

I'd put that way down the list if it cost much extra. Since bottom elements went under the oven skin we use a catch tray for anything likely to overflow. Nothing else registers as a major drama to clean.

This Xmas a few neighbours with new ovens have found that the choice of elements/fan don't match the old stove they've got used to. The brochures describe every function but they aren't available on every model so check what you'll get if you are the cook.

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#3014294 27-Dec-2022 13:26

Mehrts:

Touch controls on an oven? Who thought that was a good idea, as wet hands are very likely to be encountered in a kitchen environment.

I feel I should post a minor correction. The actual function selection that turns the oven on is a rotary dial. It's not a mechanical switch and can be turned ad infinitum, so I believe there is still the potential for a fault to turn the oven on uncommanded.

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#3014303 27-Dec-2022 14:50

SirHumphreyAppleby:

I see no F&P on the list, but that's probably for good reason.

I've actually had a good run with F&P but it was mainly before they got taken over by Haier. In fact, I've never had an issue.

I can get a F&P for the same price as a Bosch - but why would I?

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#3014315 27-Dec-2022 15:23

We bought an older version of that Beko for a kitchen remodel. It was excellent. My wife loves baking and really liked it. I’d buy another Beko oven.

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#3014435 27-Dec-2022 21:03

James Bond:

Hi team,

First off, thanks for your kind advice on my other thread regarding the fridge cabinet sizing - a solution has been found which allows for a very decent size fridge (450L~) and the ability to remove the cabinets should this be needed in the future.

I'm in the market for a 60cm wall oven, the budget is 2k max but I'm a bit confused as to what I should go for.

Miele is out of budget range.
Bosch 71L Series 4 - HBA574EB0A - $1,899.00 Cheapest Bosch with pyrolytic function, Made in Turkey, ranked 5th overall by Consumer NZ (March 2022 testing)
Electrolux 72L UltimateTaste 500 EVE614DSE - $1,884.00 Cheapest Electrolux with pyrolytic, Made in Australia, cannot find a single non-5 star review.
AEG 8 Function SteamBake Oven BEK455320M - $1,629.00 Not pyrolytic, 5-year warranty, Made in???
Bosch 71L Series 4 HBA534ES0A - $1,489.00 Cheapest Bosch but no pyrolytic function, Made in Turkey
Beko 72L Multifunction Aeroperfect BBO6851PDX - $1,289.00 Ok it's a BEKO but it's a lot of oven for the money, 5 year warranty with pyrolytic and steam.
Any other suggestions? Thank you 🙏

The AEG is made in Germany.

I purchased this model from NL, Westgate at 09:35am and it had been installed by 06:30pm today. Primarily because it was scheduled to be installed tomorrow, but because traffic was light today, the installer fitted us in.

My previous oven was an AEG (purchased 1990) and I believe we paid extra for the self-cleaning panels. We hardly ever set the oven to self-clean, so it wasn't a factor in this new AEG.

I cannot comment on how good the oven is, because I haven't used it yet.

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#3014787 28-Dec-2022 21:32

I personally would not buy a pyrolitic oven again, having one now. The time it takes is the main point and it gives off a very dry air enviornment which is awful in the summer. It now gets wiped down regularly and takes no time at all and only used maybe annually. On ours, you still have to clean the glass manually anyway.

I would think about what you do in the oven, lots of baking, pizza, roasts etc and make you buy something that has all the necessary functions. As above, the manual dials are easier that touch.

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#3014944 29-Dec-2022 09:33

SirHumphreyAppleby:

I see no F&P on the list, but that's probably for good reason. A family member has one installed a couple of years ago (replacing and older F&P). Heating is uneven, even in fan forced mode. UI is worse than the old as it has touch-sensitive buttons and fewer of them. On one occasion the oven was found to be on, seemingly without any user input. There may have been accidental contact, but it's something we're keeping an eye on. Mechanical buttons seem much more appropriate for such appliances.

F&P isn't what it used to be. I had a great run with F&P appliances in the past, but the last two I purchased have been diabolical. About 4 service calls for a free standing range not long after purchase (oven control failed, oven temperature sensor failed, then it failed to turn on at all as the timer that lets you set a delayed start had failed). Similar story with a dishwasher. A colleague who is an engineer had a washing machine fail so he took it apart (he is an engineer) and was horrified at the quality of the soldering he found on the circuit board. So F&P are now firmly off my purchase list.

On the other had I have an older F&P waster and a dryer. Both are going well and have given good service. I suspect that's because they were made before F&P started cutting corners and their build quality went to hell.

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#3015222 30-Dec-2022 08:47

Thanks for the replies everyone

alisam:

The AEG is made in Germany.

I purchased this model from NL, Westgate at 09:35am and it had been installed by 06:30pm today. Primarily because it was scheduled to be installed tomorrow, but because traffic was light today, the installer fitted us in.

My previous oven was an AEG (purchased 1990) and I believe we paid extra for the self-cleaning panels. We hardly ever set the oven to self-clean, so it wasn't a factor in this new AEG.

I cannot comment on how good the oven is, because I haven't used it yet.

We purchased an induction hob yesterday and had a look at the ovens listed above with my wife. HN salesperson said that the AEG is the best value out of them all.

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#3015224 30-Dec-2022 09:01

Westinghouse is great , I find Harvey Norman push specific brands to meet their targets, do you have a new bolds in your area or heathcotes? Great customer service and independent advice https://www.newbolds.co.nz/product/2285671

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#3015249 30-Dec-2022 10:46

James Bond:

HN salesperson said that the AEG is the best value out of them all.

You listened to the word of a salesman?!

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