Looking for a decent fixed canopy awning

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#306088 27-Jun-2023 11:31

One side of the Casa is exposed to the north-west so the ranch slider there gets pelted with rain, water comes in if it's left open even a crack for ventilation, and it's impossible to leave shoes and other stuff outside it. I'd like to add a fixed-canopy awning over it to provide a bit of shelter, of which this has been recommended. However M10 has something that looks fairly similar which would imply that the M10 one at least will be made of the cheapest chinesium available. The Palram one has wind load ratings and other data available for it (we're coastal and when there's wind it's a westerly), but I'm wondering how well something like that would hold up or whether it's more towards the M10 end of the scale? Anyone have any experience with them, or alternative recommendations?

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#3095378 27-Jun-2023 11:53

You mention rain and you mention wind - how often is the 2 happening at the same time? if often (or the rain is just slightly sideways), those solutions won't work as they don't protrude out far enough to be meaningful in stopping rain entering 2 meters below it. (especially anything at ground level, aka shoes, etc)

If its a real concern and a space you want to effectively use, a proper canopy/awning would be the preferred way, but more expensive depending what you want (retractable, clear, soft/hard shell, etc)

You need a decent distance in front of the door AND a decent distance to the sides of the door to be covered.

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#3095382 27-Jun-2023 12:06

I asked my builder about these bunnings ones https://www.bunnings.co.nz/altamonte-havana-1200x-700mm-polycarbonate-awning_p1010475 and he said many things that I cant put here because of the word filter.

Apparently the finish will fall off leaving the corroded aluminum in no time, and the plastic hazes over really quickly.

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#3095398 27-Jun-2023 12:51

Silvrav:
You mention rain and you mention wind - how often is the 2 happening at the same time? if often (or the rain is just slightly sideways), those solutions won't work as they don't protrude out far enough to be meaningful in stopping rain entering 2 meters below it. (especially anything at ground level, aka shoes, etc)

Most of the time it's only slightly sideways, door left open with someone out in the garden, so 1m is just about right. Roofing over more of it will block the view and light, there's a sunken terrace outside the ranch slider so it'd end up as a bit of a cave. A 1m fixed awning is about the right tradeoff.

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#3095422 27-Jun-2023 14:32

And as a second question, the Palram ones provide technical data like wind loads, however while the canopy may take 120kmh winds I doubt very much that the anchors into fibrolite will take the load that'll produce. I was thinking of bolting/screwing a piece of timber onto the fibrolite, both to make the surface vertical and because I can then put the anchors in where there are studs rather than wherever they end up based on the awning, and then attaching the awning to the timber. While that sounds sensible, there may be other opinions out there...

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#3095989 28-Jun-2023 21:18

richms:
I asked my builder about these bunnings ones https://www.bunnings.co.nz/altamonte-havana-1200x-700mm-polycarbonate-awning_p1010475 and he said many things that I cant put here because of the word filter.

Apparently the finish will fall off leaving the corroded aluminum in no time, and the plastic hazes over really quickly.

From a bit of Googling it looks like there's only one single supplier of non-rubbish fixed awnings unless you go to custom-made $$$tuff, and they're indefinitely out of stock. Every other type of fixed awning uses plastic brackets (PP, nylon, PVC, ...) which on a north-facing wall that gets year-round sun and occasional gale gusts in winter I reckon will last about a year, one summer for the UV to turn the plastic brackets to ready-to-shatter brittleness and then in winter a good strong gust to break them. You can get a good idea from the descriptions what you're in for, no technical data at all (wind loading, etc), and weights of 5-10kg for a 2m awning, vs. 21kg for the steel+alu one that's out of stock.