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#324064 23-Feb-2026 22:44
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Hi there

 

 

 

I see with many welders recommendations for 8 to 10 kVA generators despite the welders running off a single 230V power supply. Does anyone have an explanation for this please? The max rating for 230V is 10A or 2300W, so why is a such an oversized generator required?

 

 

 

Thanks, kind regards

 

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  #3463888 24-Feb-2026 09:52
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Welder's draw a surge when you strike the arc (far beyond the 10A rating of the welder).

This is not a huge issue on grid power. The grid has a comical amount of momentum, and circuit breakers (for the common C curve), are designed to provide ~1 second of power at 5+ times their continuous rating. Similar deal with starting big induction motors 

 

Similar deal with starting induction motors direct on line. They draw much more than their continuous rating on start up.

 

 

 

Never welded from a generator, but understand they struggle with the initial surge from striking the arc. Both in overall capacity to deal with it, and how quick the governor etc can respond to the sudden demand. Bigger generators simply have more capacity to deal with this stuff.

Should note that welder generators exist. These have integrated welders, and some advantages over running an electric generator off a genset. (That said, when I was doing procurement for a ASME IX pipe welding job (weld quality very important and gets tested), the contractors decided not to avail the generator welders on site, instead choosing to use their electric welders running off one of the sites big diesel generators.




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  #3463986 24-Feb-2026 12:41
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Thanks for detailed reply, that makes sense..


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  #3463995 24-Feb-2026 12:55
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I highly recommend if you are going to do a lot of remote welding, get a welder generator. as an example https://riequip.co.nz/collections/welder-generators

 

I have blowen up standard generators that were rated 2x what my arc welder required.

But if you are TIG or MIG ing you may not have any option but to use a generator. I've only seen standard ARC welder / generators. It is how ever been a few years since I've picked up a welder.



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  #3464007 24-Feb-2026 13:07
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Not my field - but can you not integrate a lithium battery as a 'super capacitor' to provide those surges ? 


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  #3464016 24-Feb-2026 13:22
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pdh:

 

Not my field - but can you not integrate a lithium battery as a 'super capacitor' to provide those surges ? 

 

 

short answer -NO!

 

 


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  #3464059 24-Feb-2026 15:33
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We had quite a small generator at our wedding, just enough power to keep the beer cold.

 

 


 
 
 
 

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  #3464156 24-Feb-2026 18:49
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pdh:

 

Not my field - but can you not integrate a lithium battery as a 'super capacitor' to provide those surges ? 

 

 

you can get them, there is a couple of brands of lithium battery powered welders but very $$$. i think there is also one with built in super caps.


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  #3464157 24-Feb-2026 18:54
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djtOtago: I highly recommend if you are going to do a lot of remote welding, get a welder generator. as an example https://riequip.co.nz/collections/welder-generators I have blowen up standard generators that were rated 2x what my arc welder required.

But if you are TIG or MIG ing you may not have any option but to use a generator. I've only seen standard ARC welder / generators. It is how ever been a few years since I've picked up a welder.

 

you can get wirefeeders that you can use with generator welders. but most smaller ones, typically just use a mig with generator. however generally they are welding outdoors so gas doesn't work well (unless under a tent etc) so often its fluxcore and its only when your doing lots of welding. most of the outdoor stuff a diyer will do a stick welder will do just fine.

 

also i would avoid inverter generators. we did try one but it would not increase engine rpm fast enough to match the welder.


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  #3464158 24-Feb-2026 18:56
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also make sure your welder can run off a generator. not all inverter welders are suitable for generators.


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