Watching Spark Sport (including launch and pricing)

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Master Geek
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#2293346 10-Aug-2019 07:05

As expected, massively disappointing from Spark with this coverage.

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#2293347 10-Aug-2019 07:19

Watching the Liverpool vs Norwich game, the 3 ball judder is constant, the players are distorting too.

I aim to misbehave.

richardgnz

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Master Geek
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#2293351 10-Aug-2019 07:38

Let me just start by saying the motion is bad. The Ball judders around the screen as do the players.

What concerns me the most is the close up shots of the players in action. This is more representative of what we will be watching in the rugby. This is where the motion really gets bad.....

The picture is great. The motion is rubbish and should not be accepted in 2019.

ianajmes

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#2293352 10-Aug-2019 07:45

Watching on a Samsung ru7100 on the built-in app. I have the judder reduction setting on the tv set to off. I can honestly say no issues with motion judder and is working well. Tried it on Apple TV and noticeable judder every couple of seconds. Sticking to the tv app for now.

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#2293353 10-Aug-2019 07:48

ianajmes: Watching on a Samsung ru7100 on the built-in app. I have the judder reduction setting on the tv set to off. I can honestly say no issues with motion judder and is working well. Tried it on Apple TV and noticeable judder every couple of seconds. Sticking to the tv app for now.

Does the judder reduction make any difference if you turn it on? I wonder if the native TV apps allow them to code in motion control directly in to the app so even if its turned off, its turned on... My Hawell laptop (chrome/firefox), Android TV app, Nokia 7.1 plus are all juddering when I use them. Its unfortunately hurting my eyes to watch.

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#2293355 10-Aug-2019 07:53

I wonder how this compares to Bein? I wouldn't have thought their streams were in 60fps

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#2293358 10-Aug-2019 07:58

Don't know, I watched the EPL last season through Sky which was at 50fps

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#2293361 10-Aug-2019 08:17

Watching the game now in Safari connected via HDMI to my LG OLED. everything looks pretty good. No ball 'trails'.

FWIW I've got all 'motion' features switched off. I wouldn't be surprised if people complaining about juddering have Motion Pro or whatever it is on their TV model switched on.

ianajmes

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#2293362 10-Aug-2019 08:18

Benoire:
ianajmes: Watching on a Samsung ru7100 on the built-in app. I have the judder reduction setting on the tv set to off. I can honestly say no issues with motion judder and is working well. Tried it on Apple TV and noticeable judder every couple of seconds. Sticking to the tv app for now.

Does the judder reduction make any difference if you turn it on? I wonder if the native TV apps allow them to code in motion control directly in to the app so even if its turned off, its turned on... My Hawell laptop (chrome/firefox), Android TV app, Nokia 7.1 plus are all juddering when I use them. Its unfortunately hurting my eyes to watch.

When I tried turning on when I watched some of the warm up competitions over the last couple of weeks I did notice noticeable judder. As it's a new TV I did a bit of googling and found a calibration tutorial which recommended setting this to off. Seemed to work for me.

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#2293365 10-Aug-2019 08:29

Watched the first half on the big screen with Apple TV. Pretty good, a bit of ball judder, switched to my Samsung phone and its less noticeable. Sounds like the experience is massively different from device to device and I think Spark should be providing guidelines around things like motion adjustment on TVs etc to help people get the best experience.

Overall pretty happy though.

richardgnz

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#2293371 10-Aug-2019 09:04

arnies: Watching the game now in Safari connected via HDMI to my LG OLED. everything looks pretty good. No ball 'trails'.

FWIW I've got all 'motion' features switched off. I wouldn't be surprised if people complaining about juddering have Motion Pro or whatever it is on their TV model switched on.

The First thing I do on any TV is turn all TV picture processing off - especially motion.

I do not see ball "trails". What I see is judddery motion. I admit some people will probably be happy with it. I am not as I expect smooth motion. Its that to much to ask in 2019?

I see this on a computer screen, a TV connected to a computer, A TV using the built in app. A Samsung phone with android app....

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#2293372 10-Aug-2019 09:07

MileHighKiwi:
Watched the first half on the big screen with Apple TV. Pretty good, a bit of ball judder, switched to my Samsung phone and its less noticeable. Sounds like the experience is massively different from device to device and I think Spark should be providing guidelines around things like motion adjustment on TVs etc to help people get the best experience.

Overall pretty happy though.

That’s a really good point. Phones and tablets will be more forgiving than the families large screen.

What makes me personally quite worried is that a reasonably large technical change has been made only a few days before demand (with the football) is about to peak. Surely this would’ve been discovered over the “trial” period?

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#2293373 10-Aug-2019 09:08

Spark tweeted an hour ago suggesting that motion settings be turned off: https://twitter.com/sparknzsport/status/1159916431267397633

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#2293374 10-Aug-2019 09:08

richardgnz:
FWIW I've got all 'motion' features switched off. I wouldn't be surprised if people complaining about juddering have Motion Pro or whatever it is on their TV model switched on.

That use to be the norm for plasma and older LCDs that had rubbish G2G? transitions. It was a selling point to make things look better and justify the expense when hanging in the showroom floor.

Similar to sharpness, factory sharpened to define lines and stop blur. Whack that down and often looked better too

Seems many leave it on for that cinematic experience, but when you actually need some it over-does it

richardgnz

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#2293376 10-Aug-2019 09:11

freaknout:
MileHighKiwi:
Watched the first half on the big screen with Apple TV. Pretty good, a bit of ball judder, switched to my Samsung phone and its less noticeable. Sounds like the experience is massively different from device to device and I think Spark should be providing guidelines around things like motion adjustment on TVs etc to help people get the best experience.

Overall pretty happy though.

That’s a really good point. Phones and tablets will be more forgiving than the families large screen.

What makes me personally quite worried is that a reasonably large technical change has been made only a few days before demand (with the football) is about to peak. Surely this would’ve bepen discovered over the “trial” period?

I really do not think we should be saying phones and tablets will be less forgiving....

I want to watch this content on my TV. That is the benchmark here.

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