Watched the Liverpool game highlights on a Shield with the spark sport app side-loaded. Cant complain with the video quality.

DNArewind:

 

Just watched some of the Liverpool v Norwich game.

 

Is everyone else seeing what I'm seeing - the corner at 27:48 - 27:50 (matchtime) for example?

 

It's a juddery, blurry mess - impossible to see any detail.

 

I've tried two plasma TVs @ 50 Hz and an LCD monitor (albeit @ 60 Hz) - same result.

 

I couldn't see that issue. My Panny plasma, old but a great TV and top model of its day, has a setting Intelligent Frame Creation. It makes up an extra guess frame to help motion blur. On which has been default, F1 is better, worse with it off. That soccer game, the ball motion blur is better with it off. 

The soccer seemed a low quality feed. The Heineken Cup rugby is really bad. It starts off pixellated, then improves to poor, maybe 360 at best

ruff:

 

Well...

 

The main thing to keep in mind, is that Spark Sport has removed half of the visual information.

 

 

 

So, in lay-mans terms... it's going to look rubbish.

 

 

 

This is half of the information missing from only a few weeks ago. Missing from when they launched their product.

 

Half of the information missing, compared to every other broadcaster in the world.

 

There is no coming back from that. It will look bad, until they reinstate an actual broadcast standard on their platform.

 

Thanks, that's a nice simple explanation for why the motion looks so wrong to me. (I also re-read your post #2292258, very informative)

Is there any difference between watching live sports and those that are highlight packages?

tdgeek:

 

DNArewind:

 

Just watched some of the Liverpool v Norwich game.

 

Is everyone else seeing what I'm seeing - the corner at 27:48 - 27:50 (matchtime) for example?

 

It's a juddery, blurry mess - impossible to see any detail.

 

I've tried two plasma TVs @ 50 Hz and an LCD monitor (albeit @ 60 Hz) - same result.

 

 

I couldn't see that issue. My Panny plasma, old but a great TV and top model of its day, has a setting Intelligent Frame Creation. It makes up an extra guess frame to help motion blur. On which has been default, F1 is better, worse with it off. That soccer game, the ball motion blur is better with it off. 

 

The soccer seemed a low quality feed. The Heineken Cup rugby is really bad. It starts off pixellated, then improves to poor, maybe 360 at best

 

It was just an example of a panning shot where the camera follows the ball. The players became very blurry (in addition to the judder I can see). I'm primarily watching on an old but great Panny plasma too, mid-range GT30 :). I've got Intelligent Frame Creation off (I did experiment with it).

DNArewind:

 

tdgeek:

 

DNArewind:

 

Just watched some of the Liverpool v Norwich game.

 

Is everyone else seeing what I'm seeing - the corner at 27:48 - 27:50 (matchtime) for example?

 

It's a juddery, blurry mess - impossible to see any detail.

 

I've tried two plasma TVs @ 50 Hz and an LCD monitor (albeit @ 60 Hz) - same result.

 

 

I couldn't see that issue. My Panny plasma, old but a great TV and top model of its day, has a setting Intelligent Frame Creation. It makes up an extra guess frame to help motion blur. On which has been default, F1 is better, worse with it off. That soccer game, the ball motion blur is better with it off. 

 

The soccer seemed a low quality feed. The Heineken Cup rugby is really bad. It starts off pixellated, then improves to poor, maybe 360 at best

 

 

It was just an example of a panning shot where the camera follows the ball. The players became very blurry (in addition to the judder I can see). I'm primarily watching on an old but great Panny plasma too, mid-range GT30 :). I've got Intelligent Frame Creation off (I did experiment with it).

 

Ah matchtime, my mistake. Yes it wasn't great, but the whole feed is pretty below par. So any action like that will suffer 

Check the Champions Cup Highlights, first one is Leinster vs Saracens. At kickoff I thought it was a video game. Look at the grass soon after, pixellated. Its not smooth, its soft, gimme SD from Sky any day. Looks like 15 FPS

tdgeek:

 

Check the Champions Cup Highlights, first one is Leinster vs Saracens. At kickoff I thought it was a video game. Look at the grass soon after, pixellated. Its not smooth, its soft, gimme SD from Sky any day. Looks like 15 FPS

 

Yes it does look like a video game at first, how bizarre!  The video and sound both seem highly compressed.  A strange thing is, I measured the bitrate at about 6,000 kbps (using Firefox/F12/Network).  That does not seem right.

I just checked the newer F1 "Vault" races, e.g. the 2015 US GP - it looks like ~15 fps too - like stop-motion animation.  I measured that at 6,000 kbps too...?

DNArewind:

 

tdgeek:

 

Check the Champions Cup Highlights, first one is Leinster vs Saracens. At kickoff I thought it was a video game. Look at the grass soon after, pixellated. Its not smooth, its soft, gimme SD from Sky any day. Looks like 15 FPS

 

 

Yes it does look like a video game at first, how bizarre!  The video and sound both seem highly compressed.  A strange thing is, I measured the bitrate at about 6,000 kbps (using Firefox/F12/Network).  That does not seem right.

 

I just checked the newer F1 "Vault" races, e.g. the 2015 US GP - it looks like ~15 fps too - like stop-motion animation.  I measured that at 6,000 kbps too...?

 

 

 

It's been pointed out a few pages back a couple of times. The framerate (or number of them) has changed. Not the pixel/bitrate. So that remains at 6mbit

MileHighKiwi: I've fiddled with the settings on my Panasonic 50" Plasma (Apple TV4) and the Man City v West Ham game is looking good. Not as good as the Leeds v Forrest game on Sky, mind.

Which settings? I also use a Panny and ATV4. 

I also feel that those soccer matches are improved tonight. Seems weird, based on your post I went back to the Norwich game and it looks better. And Man vs Westham looks fine. EPL just started, has something been improved to avoid it making the media? I assume football is popular here?

Its changed.I just rechecked F1, its better. The side panning of the background before was very noticeable, heavy judder, now its more normal. Yes, the background is not sharp, its moving and its motion blurred, but its consistent and the "judder" is now very small, so it blends in, rather than hits you in the face? Anyone else notice this?