Possible Netflix Au/NZ launch

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#1055088 28-May-2014 14:16

I estimate NF brings in somewhere just under 24 million USD per year from Aus/NZ currently. In my opinion that gives NF 24 million reasons to ignore grumbling from TV execs and distributors (who I might add are also getting a large cut of that pie). Bitching about T+S, IP and rights etc is one thing but so long as the pig is providing bacon, I can't see anyone willing to enforce T+S, IP or rights. Especially when their alternative income stream is negative.

Also worth pointing out that Sky probably have a very comfy position at present. By looking the other way while mostly geeks plug into NF- they don’t risk getting in an unwinnable war with NF by trying to shut them out.

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#1055122 28-May-2014 14:41

SaRaCeNz: I estimate NF brings in somewhere just under 24 million USD per year from Aus/NZ currently. In my opinion that gives NF 24 million reasons to ignore grumbling from TV execs and distributors (who I might add are also getting a large cut of that pie). Bitching about T+S, IP and rights etc is one thing but so long as the pig is providing bacon, I can't see anyone willing to enforce T+S, IP or rights. Especially when their alternative income stream is negative.

Also worth pointing out that Sky probably have a very comfy position at present. By looking the other way while mostly geeks plug into NF- they don’t risk getting in an unwinnable war with NF by trying to shut them out.

Put Netflix in front of my girlfriends mum or her sister, and they're hooked. I was asked 3 times a day if Netflix was working again during the latest outage. The only thing stopping Netflix mass adoption in NZ is the Technology problem

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#1055160 28-May-2014 15:32

macuser:
SaRaCeNz: I estimate NF brings in somewhere just under 24 million USD per year from Aus/NZ currently. In my opinion that gives NF 24 million reasons to ignore grumbling from TV execs and distributors (who I might add are also getting a large cut of that pie). Bitching about T+S, IP and rights etc is one thing but so long as the pig is providing bacon, I can't see anyone willing to enforce T+S, IP or rights. Especially when their alternative income stream is negative.

Also worth pointing out that Sky probably have a very comfy position at present. By looking the other way while mostly geeks plug into NF- they don’t risk getting in an unwinnable war with NF by trying to shut them out.

Put Netflix in front of my girlfriends mum or her sister, and they're hooked. I was asked 3 times a day if Netflix was working again during the latest outage. The only thing stopping Netflix mass adoption in NZ is the Technology problem

I think Netflix would be smart to buy quickflx out, as quickflix is on so many devices already. I think telecom missed a big opportunity themselves by not buying them out. If netflix does come to NZ, I don't like telecoms chances with their system. I think it certainly makes sense for netflix to come to this side of the world, and with the deep pockets they appear to have, they may also buy sporting content too, so you have a choice of providers for sport.

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#1055163 28-May-2014 15:34

mattwnz:
macuser:
SaRaCeNz: I estimate NF brings in somewhere just under 24 million USD per year from Aus/NZ currently. In my opinion that gives NF 24 million reasons to ignore grumbling from TV execs and distributors (who I might add are also getting a large cut of that pie). Bitching about T+S, IP and rights etc is one thing but so long as the pig is providing bacon, I can't see anyone willing to enforce T+S, IP or rights. Especially when their alternative income stream is negative.

Also worth pointing out that Sky probably have a very comfy position at present. By looking the other way while mostly geeks plug into NF- they don’t risk getting in an unwinnable war with NF by trying to shut them out.

Put Netflix in front of my girlfriends mum or her sister, and they're hooked. I was asked 3 times a day if Netflix was working again during the latest outage. The only thing stopping Netflix mass adoption in NZ is the Technology problem

I think Netflix would be smart to buy quickflx out, as quickflix is on so many devices already. I think telecom missed a big opportunity themselves by not buying them out. If netflix does come to NZ, I don't like telecoms chances with their system.

A Telco could partner with Netflix

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1055180 28-May-2014 15:39

KiwiNZ:

A Telco could partner with Netflix

Since hearing about Telecom's new image and forward plan, I immediately thought of a joint venture with Netflix - (Sparksflix)

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#1055183 28-May-2014 15:42

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KiwiNZ:

A Telco could partner with Netflix

Since hearing about Telecom's new image and forward plan, I immediately thought of a joint venture with Netflix - (Sparksflix)

With their proactive handling of the recent NetFlix outage, they'd have some goodwill with existing NZ NetFlix consumers.

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#1055194 28-May-2014 15:49

Yeah- but in reality, any streaming service in NZ needs to get iTunes on side so they can push out an app to ATV. Otherwise I suspect they are wasting their time.

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#1055209 28-May-2014 16:00

SaRaCeNz: Yeah- but in reality, any streaming service in NZ needs to get iTunes on side so they can push out an app to ATV. Otherwise I suspect they are wasting their time.

Or partner with a similar device manufacturer (Roku, WD Live etc) to provide your average technically illiterate consumer with a relatively easy way to get their wares onto the TV. But it needs to have decent quality. That is where Quickflix really failed for us. We used their PS3 app (as that was the best option for us), and the picture quality was awful.

We also need to see an end to these content service/hardware manufacturer exclusivity partnerships, such as the one between TV3 and Samsung. To paraphrase Helen Lovejoy, "Won't somebody please think of the consumers!"

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#1055314 28-May-2014 18:03

I'd say ATV has the most "Mom+Pop" appeal so far as streaming devices go. Apple and iTunes have an extremely trusted brand where as Roku, WDTV etc do not have significant brand following among the average vanilla consumer and are seen more as a hobbyist device here.

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#1055328 28-May-2014 18:21

SaRaCeNz: I'd say ATV has the most "Mom+Pop" appeal so far as streaming devices go. Apple and iTunes have an extremely trusted brand where as Roku, WDTV etc do not have significant brand following among the average vanilla consumer and are seen more as a hobbyist device here.

Agree, and it's quite prevalent already, and suits their iTunes accounts. In saying that I've introduced quite a few people to the Chromecast and Google Play, the control from your phone, is an easy sell.

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#1055369 28-May-2014 19:30

NzBeagle:
SaRaCeNz: I'd say ATV has the most "Mom+Pop" appeal so far as streaming devices go. Apple and iTunes have an extremely trusted brand where as Roku, WDTV etc do not have significant brand following among the average vanilla consumer and are seen more as a hobbyist device here.

Agree, and it's quite prevalent already, and suits their iTunes accounts. In saying that I've introduced quite a few people to the Chromecast and Google Play, the control from your phone, is an easy sell.

Personally I have to say I love my Chromecast + phone/tablet, it's a very simple interface and the Chromecast is super cheap to pickup and doesn't lock you into the apple world (it locks you into Google instead, but at least the devices are cheaper!). Had a sick daughter at home today and she spent the whole day watching NF. It's only a relatively recent addition to my household but the kids love it and still trying to convince my better half we can dump Sky.

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#1055403 28-May-2014 19:46

dclegg:
We also need to see an end to these content service/hardware manufacturer exclusivity partnerships, such as the one between TV3 and Samsung. To paraphrase Helen Lovejoy, "Won't somebody please think of the consumers!"

I think that is more of a case that law needs to catch up with this new technology.

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#1055404 28-May-2014 19:46

I'd subscribe to Sparkflix...Dont really like Vodasky, based on recent experiences.

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#1055407 28-May-2014 19:49

plambrechtsen:
NzBeagle:
SaRaCeNz: I'd say ATV has the most "Mom+Pop" appeal so far as streaming devices go. Apple and iTunes have an extremely trusted brand where as Roku, WDTV etc do not have significant brand following among the average vanilla consumer and are seen more as a hobbyist device here.

Agree, and it's quite prevalent already, and suits their iTunes accounts. In saying that I've introduced quite a few people to the Chromecast and Google Play, the control from your phone, is an easy sell.

Personally I have to say I love my Chromecast + phone/tablet, it's a very simple interface and the Chromecast is super cheap to pickup and doesn't lock you into the apple world (it locks you into Google instead, but at least the devices are cheaper!). Had a sick daughter at home today and she spent the whole day watching NF. It's only a relatively recent addition to my household but the kids love it and still trying to convince my better half we can dump Sky.

I'm beginning to have doubts about our Apple TV as the best way to consume NetFlix. During the outage, we were connecting to VPN on my iPhone and AirPlaying it to the ATV. The streaming experience was much better than the official ATV app, with consistent quality and no stops for buffering. The down side is that AirPlay refused to play simultaneous shows until we rebooted the router or ATV (or sometimes both).

And now we have DNS access back, I was unable to initially get the stream to start on the ATV app tonight, and had to resort to the iPhone/AirPlay combo again. It may be time to investigate other options for playback.

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#1055429 28-May-2014 20:09

Haven't noticed any issues in regards to streaming with my two ATV's- even on a VPN setup at the router, both streamed quick in full HD. No issues with Airplay even though that was routed via my PC through the US due to the VPN

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