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Topic # 146751 28-May-2014 10:21
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http://if.com.au/2014/05/27/article/Netflix-firms-plans-for-OzNZ-launch/JFQHXAALJV.html

Not sure if this is old news or not. Given the streaming issues recently, could be well timed if true.

Could also explain quickflix's recent price drop

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  Reply # 1054845 28-May-2014 10:23
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http://if.com.au/2014/05/27/article/Netflix-firms-plans-for-OzNZ-launch/JFQHXAALJV.html


I wonder if they would have far less content available vs US due to Sky owning a lot of the content?  

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  Reply # 1054847 28-May-2014 10:25
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macuser: http://if.com.au/2014/05/27/article/Netflix-firms-plans-for-OzNZ-launch/JFQHXAALJV.html


I wonder if they would have far less content available vs US due to Sky owning a lot of the content?  


Highly likely, like with all the other US content providers that have already set up here.

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  Reply # 1054849 28-May-2014 10:30
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NzBeagle:
macuser: http://if.com.au/2014/05/27/article/Netflix-firms-plans-for-OzNZ-launch/JFQHXAALJV.html


I wonder if they would have far less content available vs US due to Sky owning a lot of the content?  


Highly likely, like with all the other US content providers that have already set up here.


I think if this is indeed the case, Netflix Launches in NZ with limited content, it could be a real win for the Geo Location services as it will be an easy sell to the many customers who are likely to join Netflix's NZ service but want more TV Shows.

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  Reply # 1054857 28-May-2014 10:40
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That will be good to see. Whilst I like local initiatives I have been very disappointed with Quickflix. I finally took up the two months TiVo free trail. Had it a month now and only watched two things. The quality is sub par and the interface is horrible both on our Panasonic TV and Tivo, the TV better than TiVo but that is not saying much. Their choice is abysmal especially television shows and the majority of their movies you could rent for a week from a library for $2.00 if you have a local video store, or you could buy the series from JBHIFI for cheaper. If I was to score them out of 10 I would give 3/10




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  Reply # 1054874 28-May-2014 10:54
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This should hopefully improve connectivity for everyone using netflix. And hopefully shake up the market.

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  Reply # 1054893 28-May-2014 11:04
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That would be the end of Quickflix for me. Have been really underwhelmed by the service and everything you might actually want to watch is an expensive pay per view.
Still, we get just about enough use out of it to justify the $12 per month.
What does everyone reckon this means for the Telecom/Spark VOD service that is supposed to be coming?




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  Reply # 1054897 28-May-2014 11:08
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paulmilbank: That would be the end of Quickflix for me. Have been really underwhelmed by the service and everything you might actually want to watch is an expensive pay per view.
Still, we get just about enough use out of it to justify the $12 per month.
What does everyone reckon this means for the Telecom/Spark VOD service that is supposed to be coming?


I would imagine they will end up bundling the Spark VOD service with their Homeline+Internet packages



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  Reply # 1054904 28-May-2014 11:29
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Its still all about content. Right now, DVD retailers and rental stores have a small window over PPV (sky box office), medium sized window over paid TV (normal sky movies) and a large window over FTA TV. I would hazard a guess that part of Netflix's requirements would be for these windows to erode.

I realise appletv has many new releases day and date with DVD product, presumabely there is an income share with the studios (usually around 70% studio / 30% provider) enabling them to do this. Not sure how that income split would work with Netflix's business model where they don't charge on a title by title basis.

If they can get some key releases each month (say top 4-6 movies) plus some good catalog, then it would likely attract a good subscriber base making the venture worthwhile.

But it begs the question, if Quickflix in aussie havent been able to make a single $1 profit in the 6-7 years that they have been trading, (figures arent publically available for NZ, but I would hazard a guess that they are in a similar position) what is it that makes netflix think they can?

Our potential subsiciber base is much smaller than the US where they have been able to achieve critical mass quite quickly. I cant imagine the rights holders risking DVD/Blu-ray income on too many key releases without some serious $ contributions from Netflix for these titles.

If they do it, and do it right, it will be the final nail in the coffin for many many DVD stores in NZ (the gradual reduction of stores over the past 18-24 months would turn into a freefall).

Unfortunately for me, I am one of them who would be affected, but its a bitter pill Ive already swallowed, living on borrowed time now, milking the most $ I can why its still a profitable business..... 

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  Reply # 1054914 28-May-2014 11:43
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I suspect netflix would launch with limited content however as soon as Sky's exclusive contract on all the decent content has ceased then Netflix will step in and look to share these rights, if not buy it out exclusively and try and shut out Sky. Who has deeper pockets? id be going with Netflix.

Either way ill be sticking with my US based subscription until the NZ option becomes attractive enough.

Also netflix doesn't get content that quickly its definitely not the same day as released on DVD (afaik)

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  Reply # 1054940 28-May-2014 11:54
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Found this in a follow-up article:

As IF has noted, Australian pay-TV executives theorise that Netflix has between 100,000 and 150,000 subscribers in Australia who circumvent the geoblock by using a virtual private network (VPN), which can show a computer’s location is based in the US.  Foxtel has asked the US majors to bring pressure to bear on Netflix to try to curb this piracy.




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  Reply # 1054970 28-May-2014 12:08
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sen8or: Its still all about content. Right now, DVD retailers and rental stores have a small window over PPV (sky box office), medium sized window over paid TV (normal sky movies) and a large window over FTA TV. I would hazard a guess that part of Netflix's requirements would be for these windows to erode.

I realise appletv has many new releases day and date with DVD product, presumabely there is an income share with the studios (usually around 70% studio / 30% provider) enabling them to do this. Not sure how that income split would work with Netflix's business model where they don't charge on a title by title basis.

If they can get some key releases each month (say top 4-6 movies) plus some good catalog, then it would likely attract a good subscriber base making the venture worthwhile.

But it begs the question, if Quickflix in aussie havent been able to make a single $1 profit in the 6-7 years that they have been trading, (figures arent publically available for NZ, but I would hazard a guess that they are in a similar position) what is it that makes netflix think they can?

Our potential subsiciber base is much smaller than the US where they have been able to achieve critical mass quite quickly. I cant imagine the rights holders risking DVD/Blu-ray income on too many key releases without some serious $ contributions from Netflix for these titles.

If they do it, and do it right, it will be the final nail in the coffin for many many DVD stores in NZ (the gradual reduction of stores over the past 18-24 months would turn into a freefall).

Unfortunately for me, I am one of them who would be affected, but its a bitter pill Ive already swallowed, living on borrowed time now, milking the most $ I can why its still a profitable business..... 


Most of the contact on Netflix is not that new - pretty sure they don't have movies available on DVD release date, and TV shows are not right up to date. They just have a large back catalogue, so lots to watch.

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macuser: http://if.com.au/2014/05/27/article/Netflix-firms-plans-for-OzNZ-launch/JFQHXAALJV.html


I wonder if they would have far less content available vs US due to Sky owning a lot of the content?  


I would put money on the content being nowhere near as attractive as US.

As an example, we are currently working our way through The West Wing (a show we missed when it first aired on TV). During the recent NetFlix outage, I checked other NetFlix jurisdictions to see if we could get our fix elsewhere. The only place this show is served from is NetFlix US and NetFlix CA (both of which were affected by this outage).

If I was a betting man, I'd bet on a subset of NetFlix UK content, with a bit of Kiwi stuff thrown in for good measure.

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  Reply # 1055026 28-May-2014 13:01
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SepticSceptic: Found this in a follow-up article:

As IF has noted, Australian pay-TV executives theorise that Netflix has between 100,000 and 150,000 subscribers in Australia who circumvent the geoblock by using a virtual private network (VPN), which can show a computer’s location is based in the US.  Foxtel has asked the US majors to bring pressure to bear on Netflix to try to curb this piracy.


Piracy??  Gee these Ozzy  Tv excecs  know how to invent works.  They most likely equate skipping commercials as theft as well..




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SepticSceptic: Found this in a follow-up article:

As IF has noted, Australian pay-TV executives theorise that Netflix has between 100,000 and 150,000 subscribers in Australia who circumvent the geoblock by using a virtual private network (VPN), which can show a computer’s location is based in the US.  Foxtel has asked the US majors to bring pressure to bear on Netflix to try to curb this piracy.


You cant get around a VPN. That would throw my connection in every way dead center in the USA.




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old3eyes:
SepticSceptic: Found this in a follow-up article:

As IF has noted, Australian pay-TV executives theorise that Netflix has between 100,000 and 150,000 subscribers in Australia who circumvent the geoblock by using a virtual private network (VPN), which can show a computer’s location is based in the US.  Foxtel has asked the US majors to bring pressure to bear on Netflix to try to curb this piracy.


Piracy??  Gee these Ozzy  Tv excecs  know how to invent works.  They most likely equate skipping commercials as theft as well..


If they throw that phrase out there often enough (and I've heard them use it a bit recently), the court of uninformed public opinion will soon equate the two. 

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