Disney+ is now enforcing "Household" usage, effectively banning sharing in new User Agreement

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#3184389 20-Jan-2024 12:55

My point (comprehension goes both ways) is that noone should be surprised, or disappointed, that they've updated their terms to close a loophole that was clearly not the expected way the service would be consumed. So why complain?

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#3184391 20-Jan-2024 12:58

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I'm amazed by the entitlement some companies have to entice people in then change the T&Cs to enhance their own, always their own, benefits.

Why shouldn't they? It's their service, it exists to return profit to their owners and shareholders. As consumers we make a decision about the service provided and whether or provides us with value for money, or not.

If they make changes that obviously degrade the service, then complaining would be fair. In this case though it feels more like resetting their terms to describe how it was expected to be used in he first place.

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#3184392 20-Jan-2024 13:08

I would have thought Disney can afford lawyers good enough to not leave loopholes.

Maybe thats why Disney is losing billions, they're too busy pleasing shareholders and owners to worry about mere customers.

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#3184400 20-Jan-2024 14:11

Consumers will always find new and novel ways to make use of things. As someone else in thread pointed out - there's a lens where, if it's not forbidden, it's allowed.

There's a line between 'reasonable' and 'unreasonable' from a consumers perspective, Netflix crossed it when they started using arbitrary technical means to lock out 'multiple use' scenarios. Disney aren't there yet. Not saying they won't cross the line at some point, of course.

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#3184439 20-Jan-2024 15:59

BlakJak:
rb99:
I'm amazed by the entitlement some companies have to entice people in then change the T&Cs to enhance their own, always their own, benefits.

Why shouldn't they? It's their service, it exists to return profit to their owners and shareholders. As consumers we make a decision about the service provided and whether or provides us with value for money, or not.

If they make changes that obviously degrade the service, then complaining would be fair. In this case though it feels more like resetting their terms to describe how it was expected to be used in he first place.

Just as they are able to update their TOS consumers can express their opinions freely and say it sucks.

This is a business transaction. Both sides will always work in their own best interests.

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#3184502 20-Jan-2024 16:53

Sounds like an abuse by a monopoly to me.

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#3184506 20-Jan-2024 17:01

rb99:
Sounds like an abuse by a monopoly to me.

There are many other streaming services. Disney+ is far from a monopoly.

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#3184507 20-Jan-2024 17:04

I'm sure you can list all those alternative providers of say, Star Wars that offer better Terms of Use ?

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#3184508 20-Jan-2024 17:06

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I'm sure you can list all those alternative providers of say, Star Wars that offer better Terms of Use ?

Um.. What? Disney owns Star Wars. They can do what they like with it.

If you want to consume it, you live with their terms.

I don't think we've gotten to the stage where anyone has a right to copyrighted content somehow, as much as it's a nice idea...

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#3184511 20-Jan-2024 17:16

So Disney owns Star Wars. They could licence it out (and have before), but they don't. They're the only supplier here (I think). They don't bother with blurays here anymore. The only way to watch Star Wars here is Disney+ (I think). These are our terms, take it or leave it. Doesn't that sound like at least acting like a monopoly to you ?

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#3184512 20-Jan-2024 17:20

rb99:
So Disney owns Star Wars. They could licence it out (and have before), but they don't. They're the only supplier here (I think). They don't bother with blurays here anymore. The only way to watch Star Wars here is Disney+ (I think). These are our terms, take it or leave it. Doesn't that sound like at least acting like a monopoly to you ?

Nope. It sounds like they are offering Star Wars for you to watch. You can choose whether it’s worth it to you or not.

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#3184513 20-Jan-2024 17:20

rb99:
So Disney owns Star Wars. They could licence it out (and have before), but they don't. They're the only supplier here (I think). They don't bother with blurays here anymore. The only way to watch Star Wars here is Disney+ (I think). These are our terms, take it or leave it. Doesn't that sound like at least acting like a monopoly to you ?

Literally no. You don't have a right to Star Wars. Thus.. copy right (copyright).

Seems to me there's still channels to buy box sets and individual DVD/BluRay so... YDY.

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#3184514 20-Jan-2024 17:26

Handle9:
rb99:

So Disney owns Star Wars. They could licence it out (and have before), but they don't. They're the only supplier here (I think). They don't bother with blurays here anymore. The only way to watch Star Wars here is Disney+ (I think). These are our terms, take it or leave it. Doesn't that sound like at least acting like a monopoly to you ?

Nope. It sounds like they are offering Star Wars for you to watch. You can choose whether it’s worth it to you or not.

Very True. But they are the only supplier and they choose to be the only supplier.

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#3184515 20-Jan-2024 17:29

BlakJak:
rb99:

So Disney owns Star Wars. They could licence it out (and have before), but they don't. They're the only supplier here (I think). They don't bother with blurays here anymore. The only way to watch Star Wars here is Disney+ (I think). These are our terms, take it or leave it. Doesn't that sound like at least acting like a monopoly to you ?

Literally no. You don't have a right to Star Wars. Thus.. copy right (copyright). Seems to me there's still channels to buy box sets and individual DVD/BluRay so... YDY.

Also true. But Disney withdrew from Australia and I presume NZ, and imagine Mighty Ape won't be getting any more stock after that. See also Dial Of Destiny.

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