Are online streaming services still worth it?

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Wombat1

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#3125448 9-Sep-2023 19:49

BlakJak: You're taking advantage of localised economies of scale and pretty much ensuring local pricing is less likely to improve. I don't agree with it myself, basically it's piracy by another name.

Times are tough for lots of people at the moment. Nz is in a recession. I like to see it more like taking initiative and giving the big corps that take advantage of little economies like NZ the finger.

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#3125470 9-Sep-2023 21:43

Wombat1:
BlakJak: You're taking advantage of localised economies of scale and pretty much ensuring local pricing is less likely to improve. I don't agree with it myself, basically it's piracy by another name.

Times are tough for lots of people at the moment. Nz is in a recession. I like to see it more like taking initiative and giving the big corps that take advantage of little economies like NZ the finger.

Sure, justify a fraud because the victim is too big to care about.

This is how we deter them from taking NZ seriously - by essentially reducing the local customer count by having you impersonate someone from somewhere else. They'll continue to give economies like ours the finger for as long as we appear small. Everyone who puts their business offshore, reduces the residual value of the NZ market to them.

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#3125483 9-Sep-2023 22:28

BlakJak:

Sure, justify a fraud because the victim is too big to care about.

Fraud?

Is it fraud too when I hop on the plane and use my Netflix account when I am in the US.

Or what about using a vpn so that I can watch the NZ channels here in Aus? Is that fraud too?

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#3125582 10-Sep-2023 12:57

BlakJak: You're taking advantage of localised economies of scale and pretty much ensuring local pricing is less likely to improve. I don't agree with it myself, basically it's piracy by another name.

According to Roy Morgan polling(2022)

Netflix has 2.25m estimated active users(subscriber count not published)

Disney+ has 1.24m estimated active users(subscriber count not published)

Both are established and at scale in NZ already, have increased ~50% in price since launching locally(Netflix over 8 years, Disney+ over 4 years).

What incentive do they have to reduce pricing locally, they charge what the market is willing to pay and competition is already pretty tough here(threenow and tvnz being free and prime video being $8).

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#3125656 10-Sep-2023 17:56

As of note Disney plus is charging around $15 for three months for new or inactive accounts. Have till 20th Sept. Average $5 a month.

I’m guessing this is to get a boost in new subscribers.

I don’t think they’d be offering this if a lot of people weren’t resisting current NZ prices.

If they’re not happy with uptake it puts pressure for price to drop, and for them to reduce costs, like less content.

Or alternative is to increase value in another way. Disney content is pretty much same worldwide so they’ve already paid content creation costs before it’s distributed here.

Edit: In USA and some other countries they are discounting advert tier for three months.

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#3125702 10-Sep-2023 22:54

Given they are buying out Hulu finally they should merge the 2 and call it disney after dark or something for more mature content. That being said I could only name a handful of hulu originals from the past years and yet it's valued at 20B+

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#3125705 10-Sep-2023 23:10

rugrat: As of note Disney plus is charging around $15 for three months for new or inactive accounts. Have till 20th Sept. Average $5 a month.

I’m guessing this is to get a boost in new subscribers.

I don’t think they’d be offering this if a lot of people weren’t resisting current NZ prices.

Agreed. I cancelled Disney+ last November when my annual subscription expired and new pricing would've kicked in. I'll resubscribe for the three month period then cancel again.

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#3125815 11-Sep-2023 09:15

I think most streaming services are overpriced.

But when I look at the alternatives...

NZOD has ads, lasty time I used the app it was very glitchy AF.

YouTube has ads unless I buy premium which is overpriced IMO considering it's mostly amateur content

Sky ... when I say in a hotel with Sky I struggle to find something worth watching and there are sooooo many ads. I don't understand their ad model. I'm watching Discovery channel, and there are so many ads advertising Discovery channel, that I stop watching it.

FTA television, mostly rubbish content (Neked Housewives of My Botched Kitchen Island Married at First Airport etc), and super long ad breaks. FTA television is history in our household.

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#3125823 11-Sep-2023 09:31

@MikeAqua your view is so in line with mine. I read a lot these days or go outside and race my wheelchair. Last time we had Sky it was repeat repeat, repeating repeats that had repeated many times and adverts promoting upcoming repeats.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#3125824 11-Sep-2023 09:35

I have finally fixed TVNZ+ on our TV. I switched the TV from wired ethernet to wireless and it works, why? I dunno, maybe due to the alignment of the stars or Covid.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#3125890 11-Sep-2023 10:25

MikeB4:

I have finally fixed TVNZ+ on our TV. I switched the TV from wired ethernet to wireless and it works, why? I dunno, maybe due to the alignment of the stars or Covid.

That's odd. Usually better results with wired than wireless.

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#3125903 11-Sep-2023 11:02

MikeAqua:

That's odd. Usually better results with wired than wireless.

It doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I thought maybe my managed switch was faulty all other devices work fine. Other Apps on the TV work ok such as YourTube. Occasionally Disney+ did play up. I replaced the Cat5 from the switch to the TV and used a different port to no avail. Via Wifi it works so I guess I will stick with it and given that TVs generally have 100 ports wifi is about the same in this case.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#3126094 11-Sep-2023 16:15

I signed up to GAMSGO, you buy 1 share of Family's account. Don't think it would work for Netflix due to the Geo restrictions they putting in place. But works for Disney+ and Spotify, and YouTube Premium, all about $24USD per 12months.

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