Watching Spark Sport (including launch and pricing)

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#2203269 22-Mar-2019 11:18

I get judder when Chromecasting to my 4K Sony Android TV (2018 model) and Shield TV (a little less). What is the likely source of the judder does anyone know?

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#2203277 22-Mar-2019 11:34

networkn:

I get judder when Chromecasting to my 4K Sony Android TV (2018 model) and Shield TV (a little less). What is the likely source of the judder does anyone know?

Don't know, I was getting judder / micro stuttering on my chromecasted stream from my Nokia 7.1 plus to my nvidia shield too; the live F1 race was better and haven't had the time to look at other videos.

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#2203279 22-Mar-2019 11:35

Talkiet:

Benoire:

Any update on the VOD delay? Bahrain is the first middle of the night event and if the VOD asset isn't available until hours later it will screw up being able to watch it, especially if the app crashes the live stream close to the end of the program. I'm not going to be able to subscribe without this as watching the race delayed by an entire working day means I'd rather watch the race highlights on youtube for free as that will effectively be the same result.

Fair question. It is an active point within the team. There is no clarification yet as to the likely VOD delay once things settle down. Sorry.

Cheers - N

Ok, its good that its an active point and that some clarification will occur... I probably won't sub properly after the trial until this is done... would be relatively a waste of money if I can watch the highlights and get he gist of the race.

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#2203280 22-Mar-2019 11:38

Talkiet:

networkn:

Lazy question. I presume I won't be able to access Spark Sport from Australia next week when I am there?

Lazy answer: https://help.sparksport.co.nz/

Cheers - N

(Couldn't resist :-)

Boo, will have to use a competing service :(

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#2203314 22-Mar-2019 12:09

seems it's only newer gen LG tvs that support SS in the browser. Tried on ours today... TLS error!

good to know they support the protocols..

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#2203323 22-Mar-2019 12:32

Also noted why I never saw the studdering on cc

I had mine set to 50hz mode already. Turning that off I do notice a few studders.

Might be worth playing with that setting?
Obviously content dependant. But cc doesn't seem to handle well at running 60hz on 50fps content

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#2203337 22-Mar-2019 12:48

Looks like AirPlay from another device is the current solution for ATV. They did mention an app in future plans in the NZ NOG talk. Any ETA for a native app?

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#2203339 22-Mar-2019 12:52

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Looks like AirPlay from another device is the current solution for ATV. They did mention an app in future plans in the NZ NOG talk. Any ETA for a native app?

Soon, I'm told airplay works brilliantly.

No ETA. There is quite a few platforms on the way though

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#2203340 22-Mar-2019 12:54

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Soon, I'm told airplay works brilliantly.

No ETA. There is quite a few platforms on the way though

Thanks for the info, I'll keep an eye out for an app. My experience with airplay hasn't been one of high framerates, even over gigabit Ethernet.

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#2203341 22-Mar-2019 12:55

Tracer:

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Soon, I'm told airplay works brilliantly.

No ETA. There is quite a few platforms on the way though

Thanks for the info, I'll keep an eye out for an app. My experience with airplay hasn't been one of high framerates, even over gigabit Ethernet.

Are you playing content that is in 50fps or 30 though? may not be anything to blame but simply the source isn't high frame rate content

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#2203344 22-Mar-2019 13:07

The NBA channel is 60 FPS ..MUTV and EDGE are 50 FPS

My understanding is Android TV's with built in Chromecast run at 60 HZ maybe that's where you are seeing judder?

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#2203346 22-Mar-2019 13:09

hio77: Also noted why I never saw the studdering on cc

I had mine set to 50hz mode already. Turning that off I do notice a few studders.

Might be worth playing with that setting?
Obviously content dependant. But cc doesn't seem to handle well at running 60hz on 50fps content

Interesting. I use Kodi to play back Sky TV (I use an internal server to decode my sky card and play back outside of sky box) and if I don't have Kodi automatically changing the refresh rate (from 60 > 50hz), the sky content judders slightly... Can a) chrome cast force a change in TV refresh rate and b) can the app force a change in refresh rate? I don't particular want to have to keep changing the rate myself as I have different content and that would be a poor user outcome.

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#2203357 22-Mar-2019 13:16

Benoire:

Interesting. I use Kodi to play back Sky TV (I use an internal server to decode my sky card and play back outside of sky box) and if I don't have Kodi automatically changing the refresh rate (from 60 > 50hz), the sky content judders slightly... Can a) chrome cast force a change in TV refresh rate and b) can the app force a change in refresh rate? I don't particular want to have to keep changing the rate myself as I have different content and that would be a poor user outcome.

There we go, you get it elsewhere and are working around it..

Same thing really... it would make so much more sense if tvs just used vesa spec and changed between the two rates based on content.

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#2203360 22-Mar-2019 13:21

Yeah, except only on content playback as otherwise the plasma tv image looks wrong out of its native 60hz refresh rate... fine when content is playing at the rate, i.e. sky or if the interface was designed for 50hz otherwise it looks wrong with tons of jaggies etc. The LCD Tvs in the bedrooms don't suffer from this so I can keep generally at 50hz.

Is that image of your casting controls? Where did you find that? I don't have a chromecast, I've got an nVidia Shield so not sure if those options exist for me..

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#2203364 22-Mar-2019 13:32

Benoire:

Yeah, except only on content playback as otherwise the plasma tv image looks wrong out of its native 60hz refresh rate... fine when content is playing at the rate, i.e. sky or if the interface was designed for 50hz otherwise it looks wrong with tons of jaggies etc. The LCD Tvs in the bedrooms don't suffer from this so I can keep generally at 50hz.

Is that image of your casting controls? Where did you find that? I don't have a chromecast, I've got an nVidia Shield so not sure if those options exist for me..

Oh. for shield yeah, it might struggle.

It's in the Google Home app. i assume shield has something along the same lines?

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