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# 181307 10-Oct-2015 10:14
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I have a Pipo mini-pc used exclusively for streaming. From the beginning it has caused headaches. After constant tinkering it is now working relatively well, but occasionally it freezes solid and the stream has to be reloaded.

I am fed up with all of its issues and have resigned myself to getting something better. Unfortunately, budget is a major limitation so I will be looking for something second-hand. First, though, I need to know what to look for so am seeking advice on suitable machines from a few years ago. What was state of the art then?

Requirements: I don’t want an Android tablet. It has to run a recent version of Windows. The CPU has to be up to the task. The Pipo has one of these quad-core Baytrail Intel Atom processors and I think it is getting maxed out a lot. I suppose an i7 would be ideal but I don’t know what the minimum would have to be. Adequate RAM is important. The pipo has 2 gb and it is not enough.

It has to be quiet. It will be located in the lounge. I have already had to add a fan to the Pipo and I don’t really trust fanless machines any more. Small form factor is desirable, must have HDMI out. Other graphics capabilities not important. It won’t be used for gaming or anything other than streaming. Wi-fi or LAN are both acceptable. Would greatly prefer something that boots up automatically after a power cut. Not concerned about HTPC or media player capabilities. Will be used only for streaming from the Internet, nothing local. Hard drive unimportant as will use external drive for data.

That is everything I can think of. Suggestions welcome.






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  # 1403362 10-Oct-2015 10:40
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Let me see if I get this

You want a computer that takes files from another computer in your house/the internet and plays them and sends picture and sound out the HDMI cable?

If that's the case
i3/i5 and a decent GPU (most late gen i5/i3 have decent built in intel GPU as i understand, but cannot confirm) and a SSD




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  # 1403423 10-Oct-2015 11:33
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http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=77&topicid=180770

i have that, just need a PS and a GFX card and your good to go.

 
 
 
 




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  # 1403500 10-Oct-2015 14:39
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joker97: Let me see if I get this

You want a computer that takes files from another computer in your house/the internet and plays them and sends picture and sound out the HDMI cable?

If that's the case
i3/i5 and a decent GPU (most late gen i5/i3 have decent built in intel GPU as i understand, but cannot confirm) and a SSD


I want a computer that works better than what I have for streaming video from the Internet. Yes, video and sound HDMI out. Streaming from another computer in the house is not important. We don't have an extensive video library and don't need to use it this way. All we care about is streaming from the Internet.
 




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  # 1403501 10-Oct-2015 14:41
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Jase2985: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=77&topicid=180770

i have that, just need a PS and a GFX card and your good to go.


Thanks for the link. At this stage I am just collecting information, not yet looking to buy. I have done my own builds in the past and am not ruling that out, but would prefer to find a box ready to go if possible.





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  # 1403512 10-Oct-2015 14:48
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Any i3/i5 computer that's not a Chinese clone will work just fine. I'm pretty sure the i5s come with a decent enough Intel GPU. Min 4gb RAM ideally 8GB. Ideally SSD & i5 if you don't like waiting.

A laptop is smaller but not designed to run 24/7, so a desktop might last longer. Or you could get other recommendations of specific HTPC forms.




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  # 1403535 10-Oct-2015 15:42
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Now that is really useful info. Thanks a lot. 





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  # 1403539 10-Oct-2015 16:00
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I did a quick search and someone mentioned intel HD2xxx is the minimum for 1080p video, so I would suggest intel HD 4xxx or 5xxx for extra headroom.




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  # 1403544 10-Oct-2015 16:06
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With the windows requirement I would be tempted for a Surface P or similar with touch.

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  # 1403557 10-Oct-2015 16:29
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If the specs match (which it will), has HDMI out ... yes that will work. And you can carry it everywhere around the world ....




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  # 1403569 10-Oct-2015 16:59
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No HDMI. but the standard adaptor has it, or lots of aftermarket usb3 adaptors for way cheaper with a bunch of other ports for good measure.

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  # 1403571 10-Oct-2015 17:15
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will those adapters reliably send digital surround audio to the HDMI




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  # 1403681 10-Oct-2015 23:16
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Never tried it but there are multiple reports it works.

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  # 1403682 10-Oct-2015 23:18
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Edit: also reports of surround issues but I do not know the nature. Worth checking.

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  # 1404144 12-Oct-2015 10:20
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I noticed the reference to the Surface Pro for streaming.

I have an SP and a SP3 and have used both for streaming (W8.1 and W10).

They work fine. The AV out port on a Surface Pro is a mini display port.

I bought a mDP to HMDI cable from DSE.

I use a little wireless keyboard with a trackball from JayCar as the remote.

The only issue I have noticed is that the desktop doesn't initially scale perfectly.  This was resolved by a screen display setting on the TV.




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  # 1404221 12-Oct-2015 11:30
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OK thanks a lot for that. I am still at the research stage but will eventually make a decision. The Surface Pro may be beyond my budget. I may have to look for something like an older gaming desktop.






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