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Topic # 184027 7-Nov-2015 10:28
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Hey guys after a recient update to the iPlayer we are given the option to watch a live version of BBC 1 2 and 3. However on clicking on the option it opens a txt box stating that you need a pay your UK TV licence to continue to watch. After doing some research people have been imprisoned for not paying the fee!

Has anyone here had any issues with the UK government over this type of licence? Current NZ law does not currently cover streaming offences so would the UK government have any juristiction to prosecute here in NZ?

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  Reply # 1422757 7-Nov-2015 10:36
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Has anyone here had any issues with the UK government over this type of licence? Current NZ law does not currently cover streaming offences so would the UK government have any juristiction to prosecute here in NZ?


Very interesting topic. Have not noticed this new text box yet.

They will not be able to prosecute here. But, just because this is legal here in NZ it does not give us the right to break the law in another country. At worst, the UK government could probably list you as some sort of "bad pirate", then prosecute you one day if you ever enter the country. 

Personally I would not continue using this service. But that's me and I'm sure most people here would disagree. 

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  Reply # 1422787 7-Nov-2015 12:10
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What method are you using to hide your location ?

VPN ing horizon documentary worked on Tuesday (on-demand though)

Has anyone tried the new BBC shop service ?

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  Reply # 1422855 7-Nov-2015 14:30
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I just use a dns proxy (mostly Unotelly) and have not noticed any difference. One thing to avoid is installing any apps for downloading or anything like that. Instead I use my own downloader which works fine. I am now also streaming BBC and other UK TV via a third-party site but I still use iPlayer for VOD. I would be glad to pay the license fee if I could.
 




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  Reply # 1422856 7-Nov-2015 14:30
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Do you need to watch it live?  It's not illegal to watch the on-demand service.  I generally stick with that.  

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  Reply # 1422859 7-Nov-2015 14:42
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jmh: Do you need to watch it live?  It's not illegal to watch the on-demand service.  I generally stick with that.  


Just because it doesn't have the warning, doesn't necessarily mean that people who havn't paid the uk tv license fee can watch it. But that is a pretty archaic fee, nz ditched it many years ago.

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  Reply # 1422863 7-Nov-2015 14:50
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mattwnz:
jmh: Do you need to watch it live?  It's not illegal to watch the on-demand service.  I generally stick with that.  


Just because it doesn't have the warning, doesn't necessarily mean that people who havn't paid the uk tv license fee can watch it. But that is a pretty archaic fee, nz ditched it many years ago.


I know, but I think in law there is a distinction between the two services on offer.  In the UK, there is no law against watching on-demand, but there is against watching it live if you haven't a licence.  Therefore, by watching on-demand, which law are we breaking?  It's probably a bit like watching US netflix.  It's against their terms and conditions, but not necessarily illegal. 

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  Reply # 1422866 7-Nov-2015 15:04
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mattwnz:
jmh: Do you need to watch it live?  It's not illegal to watch the on-demand service.  I generally stick with that.  


Just because it doesn't have the warning, doesn't necessarily mean that people who havn't paid the uk tv license fee can watch it. But that is a pretty archaic fee, nz ditched it many years ago.


Archaic it may be, but just look at  the difference between programming quality there and here. There is a reason why so many people here prefer to do their viewing there.





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  Reply # 1422882 7-Nov-2015 16:13
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Bring back the fee !

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  Reply # 1422883 7-Nov-2015 16:14
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Rikkitic:
Archaic it may be, but just look at  the difference between programming quality there and here. There is a reason why so many people here prefer to do their viewing there.



Look at the population difference.

If the fee comes back I forsee a decent market for 65" monitors that leave out the DVB tuner.




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  Reply # 1422890 7-Nov-2015 16:52
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richms:
Rikkitic:
Archaic it may be, but just look at  the difference between programming quality there and here. There is a reason why so many people here prefer to do their viewing there.



Look at the population difference.

If the fee comes back I forsee a decent market for 65" monitors that leave out the DVB tuner.


It won't ever come back here.  There would be a revolt as there was last time   especially with people paying Sky as well..




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  Reply # 1422916 7-Nov-2015 18:11
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So the crap fta content will continue....

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  Reply # 1422926 7-Nov-2015 18:41
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afe66: So the crap fta content will continue....


That's fine. I dont have time for FTA crap anyway. It will die out soon enough.




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  Reply # 1422951 7-Nov-2015 20:38
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The UK license fee is governed by the BBC, they own the agency that goes out and tracks people  down, it's received lots of backlash as agents are threatening people without a TV and making minor errors on enforcing the law on citizens.

The License fee is only for the BBC and no other broadcaster in the UK

There is no way New Zealand will have a license here, unless TVNZ want to become commercial free, launch several channels, and then enforce under law a fee for all LIVE TV users,
Video On Demand services like BBC iPlayer Catch Up, Netflix etc.. in the UK do not need a license.  

In regards to the message pop, just click I have a license and watch TV anyway, BBC agent aren't going to fly over and get a handheld device to detect live TV.

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Well one thing that is good about having public national broadcast channels is you can actually watch the news in a 20 minute sitting.
I find it absolutely ridiculous that the news gets interrupted with commercials here.




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  Reply # 1423155 8-Nov-2015 15:01
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ScuL: Well one thing that is good about having public national broadcast channels is you can actually watch the news in a 20 minute sitting.
I find it absolutely ridiculous that the news gets interrupted with commercials here.


We dont have news. We have barely disguised placement for other shows and sports.




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