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#230547 28-Feb-2018 19:44
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Our fibre install has finally be done to the wall of the house, so I just need to complete the hook-up when I get some time and also figure out how to route it to the Study etc from where it enters the house (one floor down and on the opposite side).


So I finally have the approval of the household financial controller to dump Sky and move us to streaming services.


I have had free Lightbox as part of my package for 2 years now, as I don't like to watch stuff on the desktop and don't have a way of getting it on the TVs. That needs to change.


I need a streaming box that will cope with Netflix, Lightbox, and Plex. TVNZ/TV3 on demand would be nice, but not essential. Being able to play local media files would also be nice.


The two main options seem to be the nVidia Shield TV or an Apple TV. On balance, I think I prefer the Shield - nice Plex client, ability to plug headphones into the remote, more powerful hardware, and no lock in to the Apple ecosystem.


However, it's unclear to me whether it will run Lightbox. I have read elsewhere that there is an android TV apk around that it is easy to side-load. However, I don't know whether this is still true or how well it works.


So my questions are:


  • is anyone successfully using Lightbox on an nVidia Shield TV?
  • and, if so how easy was it to set up, and how well does it work?

Any other experiences with the Shield would also be of interest, before I take the plunge and order a pair.

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  #1966100 28-Feb-2018 20:05
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Not sure if Lightbox are tied up with some licensing issue with a certain Android TV model, but they still haven't opened the official app up for Shield TV. You can side load it, of course.


As the Shield TV has Chromecast built in, you can simply cast Lightbox to that from your phone etc.


It's an issue with Lightbox themselves, not the abilities of the Shield TV box. It's a very capable device!

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  #1966114 28-Feb-2018 20:36
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I have a TCL TV and tried to side load the Android TV app onto it. Lets me login but won't stream anything.


Also the Chromecast Builtin doesn't work either. So I have an old spare Chromecast V1 that I plugged in if I ever wanted to stream Lightbox.


Looking forward to them releasing better support for various Android devices in the future.



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  #1966176 28-Feb-2018 23:01
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I sideloaded the lightbox apk on my shield and it works great: 



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Uber Geek

  #1968521 5-Mar-2018 21:28
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On a related note, do the OnDemand apps for TVNZ, TV3 etc also work on the shield?


Not as important as the Plex and Lightbox aspect, as I rarely watch FTA TV (have probably viewed around 2 hours of it since Christmas, and that was recorded so I could fast forward) as it's too ad saturated to be watchable unless it has someting I really want to see. But the Wife watches a wee bit (prob 3-4 hours a month) so it could be nice to have.

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  #1970919 7-Mar-2018 22:12
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I have a Shield and Side loaded the Sky Go app which works fine. I’ll try TVNZ and Three Now and let you know.

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  #1970920 7-Mar-2018 22:14
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I'd be interested to know how they perform with the remote compared to the touchscreen design.

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  #1971131 8-Mar-2018 11:40
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The Android TV version of the lightbox apk works well with a remote control etc






I'd love to see TVNZ and TV3 update their apks as you really need a keyboard/mouse for them at present.

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  #1971134 8-Mar-2018 11:48
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The AppleTV apps for all the things you have mentioned work fine. I regularly use TVNZ/TV3, Plex and Lightbox on mine.


You do not need any other Apple devices to use an AppleTV, and there is no lock in. All you will need is an Apple ID to download Apps, but that is hardly onerous.


It also plays nicely with Harmony Remotes if that is important to you.




The Shield is an awesome device, just that sideloading (and keeping things up to date) is very un-wife-friendly (for me).

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Uber Geek


  #1971141 8-Mar-2018 12:03
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It is annoying but the android fragmentation appears to be due to Samsung and Sony trying to lock down the Android apps again... Apples benefit is that they own the ecosystem and are the only producer of hardware so no custom locks can occur.


I can only hope that we get full Android TV apps for the other providers and then it will be fine, especially with Android TV 8 looking to try and use the home screen for all apps that have content you like watching, that will make it useful for showing these.

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  #1971415 8-Mar-2018 20:55
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@trig42 - Yes, I was also considering the Apple TV. The reasons I am currently inclined to the shield instead are:


  • not the same level of vendor lock-in as the ATV
  • the Plex app (which would be my main use case) doesn't seem to review that well for the ATV
  • the shield seemed to review better in terms of processor, graphics, responsiveness and codec support (=ability to direct-play without transcoding)
  • the shield has a nifty feature of being able to plug headphones into the remote, and listen without disturbing a sleeping spouse, and
  • it can play files off locally connected drives.

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  #1972206 10-Mar-2018 05:35
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where do buy these nVidia Shield TV. is it  just amazon and  newegg etc ....whats the deference between the pro version , sorry for hijacking the post 

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  #1972248 10-Mar-2018 10:48
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1.  You have to import, there are as far as I know no local vendors.


2.  Difference is mainly that the pro has a hard drive, and is slightly bigger (to fit the hard drive). I think it might have a better remote as well.

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