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  #2603868 14-Nov-2020 20:32
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It's almost like it's been 10 days incubation period after some large gatherings or something..




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  #2603938 14-Nov-2020 23:36
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183000 new cases in the US yesterday. Guessing new cases will be at quarter of a million a day within the next week or so.

Also see that TVNZ had a new epidemiologist on the news who was very critical of the NZ governments tardiness of not having mandatory mask use and compulsory scanning for contact tracing.

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  #2603955 15-Nov-2020 07:37
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mattwnz: 183000 new cases in the US yesterday. Guessing new cases will be at quarter of a million a day within the next week or so.

Also see that TVNZ had a new epidemiologist on the news who was very critical of the NZ governments tardiness of not having mandatory mask use and compulsory scanning for contact tracing.

 

 

 

That's there job, would mandatory masks on public transport and scanning have stopped the church outbreak.





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  #2604028 15-Nov-2020 11:59
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Sorry to spoil your morning but according to the news a team with half the players recently recovered from covid has defeated the all blacks who I don't recall had anyone infected with covid! Nearly spilt my tea...

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#2604033 15-Nov-2020 12:34
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Batman: Sorry to spoil your morning but according to the news a team with half the players recently recovered from covid has defeated the all blacks who I don't recall had anyone infected with covid! Nearly spilt my tea...

Steroids are sometimes useful in covid treatment - where's the drug test result? : )

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  #2604540 16-Nov-2020 08:55
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TV3 this morning mentioned Elon Musk testing both positive and negative for covid. I’ve heard of this also happening in Europe and it's certainly concerning when it can mean the difference between locking down or not and the effect on people’s lives, I remember speaking with the head of a hospital department in SE Europe on my last trip away, pre covid, and was told that if you went to five different labs you would likely get five different results and the need for double testing and considering relevant factors and symptoms alongside any test for a serious disease. It’s not an exact science and there is the opportunity that here in NZ where we have very few cases these could be triple checked by different testing methods each time.

https://www.biospace.com/article/elon-musk-tests-positive-for-covid-19-and-negative-and-positive-and-/

 
 
 

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  #2604554 16-Nov-2020 09:21
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Eva888:
TV3 this morning mentioned Elon Musk testing both positive and negative for covid

 

TV3 should have mentioned that this information came from Musk's hallucinogenic Twitter feed, and that as Musk cares more about profits than worker safety, he's got a clear agenda.

 

Beware all billionaires when science  upsets them.


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  #2604569 16-Nov-2020 10:00
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Eva888:
TV3 this morning mentioned Elon Musk testing both positive and negative for covid. I’ve heard of this also happening in Europe and it's certainly concerning when it can mean the difference between locking down or not and the effect on people’s lives, I remember speaking with the head of a hospital department in SE Europe on my last trip away, pre covid, and was told that if you went to five different labs you would likely get five different results and the need for double testing and considering relevant factors and symptoms alongside any test for a serious disease. It’s not an exact science and there is the opportunity that here in NZ where we have very few cases these could be triple checked by different testing methods each time.

https://www.biospace.com/article/elon-musk-tests-positive-for-covid-19-and-negative-and-positive-and-/


It depends on what tests were done and how they were done and his viral shedding if swab, or viral load if blood.

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  #2604570 16-Nov-2020 10:03
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Eva888:
TV3 this morning mentioned Elon Musk testing both positive and negative for covid.

https://www.biospace.com/article/elon-musk-tests-positive-for-covid-19-and-negative-and-positive-and-/

 

He's got COVID,

 

 

 

if its near the initial onset, false negatives are not unexpected from a Rapid test...

 

Its just like the "weak positive" from the Auckland cluster that was reported on Saturday. On Sunday after another test ( once the virus had replicated a few trillion times, it came back a "proper" positive...

 

 

 

Maybe he could hit up his mate in the Whitehouse for some of his "Superman juice" or was it just a bottle of Janola....


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  #2604574 16-Nov-2020 10:05
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wellygary:

Eva888:
TV3 this morning mentioned Elon Musk testing both positive and negative for covid.

https://www.biospace.com/article/elon-musk-tests-positive-for-covid-19-and-negative-and-positive-and-/


He's got COVID,


 


if its near the initial onset, false negatives are not unexpected from a Rapid test...


Its just like the "weak positive" from the Auckland cluster that was reported on Saturday. On Sunday after another test ( once the virus had replicated a few trillion times, it came back a "proper" positive...


 


Maybe he could hit up his mate in the Whitehouse for some of his "Superman juice" or was it just a bottle of Janola....



I don't think Musk and Trump are friends?

 
 
 

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  #2604580 16-Nov-2020 10:20
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Apart from Twitter it has been reported in NY Times, and BBC among many other leading news sources citing he has had two positive and two negative tests. It’s hardly something he would be bragging about or needs when his next important mission is in a few days.

It's science and not Tin Hat Theory that agrees there can be false negatives and positives. My concern is the effects on people’s lives when the answers can be skewed either way and the need for a higher degree of insurance so that people can trust their results.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/13/world/does-elon-musk-have-the-coronavirus-after-four-tests-he-still-doesnt-know.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54948005

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  #2604581 16-Nov-2020 10:23
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Batman: Boris Johnson in isolation

 

But he's already had a pretty good dose of covid. Surely he should be immune?

 

 


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  #2604586 16-Nov-2020 10:35
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frankv:

 

But he's already had a pretty good dose of covid. Surely he should be immune?

 

 

OP either failed to read the BBC article, or failed to post an important part of the story.  You could consider it "clickbait".

 

In a statement, a No 10 spokesman said: "The prime minister has today been notified by NHS Test and Trace that he is required to self-isolate as a contact of someone who has tested positive for Covid-19."


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  #2604587 16-Nov-2020 10:35
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frankv:

 

Batman: Boris Johnson in isolation

 

But he's already had a pretty good dose of covid. Surely he should be immune?

 

 

Yes, he probably is

 

But as PM Its about sending a message that those who come into close contact with  cases should  isolate until they are confirmed to be unsymptomatic...

 

 

 

 


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