2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2604919 16-Nov-2020 18:27

Bravo2020:
Fred99: I'd like to have seen use of the covid app or signing in compulsory too.

The only problem with making it compulsory is people deleting the scan once in the shop or giving a fake contact number.

or having someone to watch every person entering to make sure they do it, ok for the big shops . Im not sure the little shops could afford the cost of hiring some one to do it.

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#2604923 16-Nov-2020 18:50

vexxxboy:or having someone to watch every person entering to make sure they do it, ok for the big shops . Im not sure the little shops could afford the cost of hiring some one to do it.

How would you stop them clearing the scan once they are in store?

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#2604931 16-Nov-2020 19:22

From Midnight in SA... hoping to slow the outbreak....

The closure of gyms, play cafes and trampoline facilities, likely for two weeks
Community sports fixtures and training temporarily cancelled for both indoor and outdoor sports, as well as contact and non-contact sports
Funerals capped at 50 people, with patrons to abide by a one per four square meter density rule
Masks mandatory for aged care facilities, with visitors capped at two per day
Private gatherings capped at 50, with a one per four square meter density rule
Churches capped at 100 guests
Weddings can continue, but all guests must be registered with the Communicable Disease Control Branch
Private gatherings at licenced venues will now be capped at 50, with one per four square metres
Pubs, clubs and restaurants will be capped at 100 per venue with one per four square metres and no stand-up consumption of alcohol
Private gatherings are capped at 10 people per residence
All activities with an approved COVID management plan scheduled for the next two weeks have been cancelled
Cinemas and theatres to follow the one person per four square metre density rule
Nail salon operators, tattooists, hairdressers and personal care service providers will need to wear a mask

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#2604940 16-Nov-2020 19:58

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Wow I'm lost for words

Really? Why? You have been super critical of the NZ response all along. Fail fail fail. AUS has been great. Now you change your mind?

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#2604941 16-Nov-2020 20:03

Bravo2020:
vexxxboy:or having someone to watch every person entering to make sure they do it, ok for the big shops . Im not sure the little shops could afford the cost of hiring some one to do it.

How would you stop them clearing the scan once they are in store?

See conspiracy.com Its a hassle for some, do you really feel that the ones that are app-literate find make time to block out app data? Come on

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#2604962 16-Nov-2020 20:35

tdgeek:

Batman:

Wow I'm lost for words

Really? Why? You have been super critical of the NZ response all along. Fail fail fail. AUS has been great. Now you change your mind?

I call it as I see it. I don't get weighed down by emotions like some people. If they're good at that time they're good. If they're bad at that time, they're bad. Bad things are allowed to get good, good things are allowed to get bad.

But please quote my post where I said Aussie was good - I don't recall saying Aussie was good. Maybe they did something well at some stage, if so credit to them at that time.

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#2604965 16-Nov-2020 20:40

Batman:

But please quote my post where I said Aussie was good - I don't recall saying Aussie was good. Maybe they did something well at some stage, if so credit to them at that time.

Perhaps its more case of NZ bering rubbish all the time as is WHO etc?

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#2604967 16-Nov-2020 20:41

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mattwnz: ...

Apparently the rippl app will automatically detect where you have visited, without needing to scan in. Anyone know more on this?

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Fairly certain that is not correct. Certainly does not show in the history on a users phone.

Just simpler to set up (no registration required, no logging in). And has check out function so have a record of duration at a site, not just check in time (assuming remember to check out - not that difficult when get used to it). Easily scans the official QR codes.

But not clear if it is fully tied in with MOH alerts, or how diligent rippl are themselves in issuing alerts?

I was looking at the iphone OS version of the rippl app and it does appear to now have this feature, but it has to be enabled in the app manually. The android version doesn't appear to have it

It is caked Rippl auto check-in. Based on not seeing a single person scanning into shops this weekend this auto tracking is needed if the government is going to continue to drag its feet over mandatory scanning/ recording

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#2604985 16-Nov-2020 21:15

tdgeek:

Batman:

But please quote my post where I said Aussie was good - I don't recall saying Aussie was good. Maybe they did something well at some stage, if so credit to them at that time.

Perhaps its more case of NZ bering rubbish all the time as is WHO etc?

The experts have taken over such duties ... you can listen from the experts who appear on 1 news from time to time. WHO? Lol if you think they're doing good stuff then so be it. It's your opinion, and I reserve mine on the WHO.

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#2605012 16-Nov-2020 22:39

in May, someone tested a man who died in France in Dec 2019 and found covid https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52526554

now they find covid antibodies in Sep 2019 in Italy https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/123414756/covid19-virus-antibodies-in-italy-as-early-as-september-tests-suggest

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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#2605014 16-Nov-2020 22:48

mattwnz: ...

I was looking at the iphone OS version of the rippl app and it does appear to now have this feature, but it has to be enabled in the app manually. The android version doesn't appear to have it

It is caked Rippl auto check-in. Based on not seeing a single person scanning into shops this weekend this auto tracking is needed if the government is going to continue to drag its feet over mandatory scanning/ recording

I am on Android & can see nothing re auto check-in. But as you indicate the iOS version does now have auto check-in.

Version history for the iOS version shows this feature was added in v1.1.1, released on 9 Nov (just 7 days ago), with changes to the Auto Check In parameters on 12 Nov (v1.1.2).

But ... it does say "for selected locations" so maybe it requires businesses to have a bluetooth transmitter or similar to operate (or perhaps it works off GPS to determine the business name) ??

At least a move in the right direction.

On Playstore, the latest update for the Android version is shown as 13 Sept (v1.2.1).

Cannot see an option to display the version number so not certain if mine is the latest. Has been installed since August and do not recall any request to update it.

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#2605114 17-Nov-2020 07:38

Please direct all covid tracer app replies to the existing thread NZ COVID Tracer app.

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#2605115 17-Nov-2020 07:40

Moderna vaccine claimed to be "94.5% effective" (based on just 95 infections!). All preliminary of course ...

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300160174/coronavirus-second-covid19-vaccine-shows-overwhelming-success-in-us-tests

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#2605130 17-Nov-2020 07:48

DS248: Moderna vaccine claimed to be "94.5% effective" (based on just 95 infections!). All preliminary of course ...

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/300160174/coronavirus-second-covid19-vaccine-shows-overwhelming-success-in-us-tests

Should have added, it is also an mRNA vaccine but has an advantage over the Pfizer version in that it can be stored at minus 20 degrees Celsius (-4 deg F) and once thawed can be kept for 30 days in the refrigerator.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/16/health/moderna-vaccine-results-coronavirus/index.html

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#2605136 17-Nov-2020 08:05

Both vaccines require people to get two shots, several weeks apart. US officials said they hope to have about 20 million Moderna doses and another 20 million doses of the vaccine made by Pfizer and its German partner BioNTech to use in late December.

The US with a population of 300 million might have enought to vaccinate 20 million people by end December. That's a LOT pf people who will be well down the line globally? And by July 2021 before non vulnerable can get line up for it. There is also Canada, South America, Europe, Asia and Africa left. Naturally you would expect there will be multi manufacturing faciltiies, but even so, it seems a long long way off

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