2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2730213 17-Jun-2021 15:53

DS248:

If of any interest, this is the form of the email invite that arrives - at least in my case / in the Northern Region. Links to click shown below in underlined bold text (links removed)

Does it look like the one on these pages , ( i.e the national booking system) or is the the local DHB one?

https://img.scoop.co.nz/media/pdfs/2106/Tier_4_rollout_slideshow.pdf

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#2730217 17-Jun-2021 16:15

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DS248:

If of any interest, this is the form of the email invite that arrives - at least in my case / in the Northern Region. Links to click shown below in underlined bold text (links removed)

Does it look like the one on these pages , ( i.e the national booking system) or is the the local DHB one?

https://img.scoop.co.nz/media/pdfs/2106/Tier_4_rollout_slideshow.pdf

Unfortunately I did not pay much attention to the form that opened up for MIL. Just recall seeing her name and address already showing, plus details (dropdown?) for the location of the clinic to choose.

And as mentioned, so far I have not attempted to login to my own invite as I have already booked to receive the shot locally.

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#2730250 17-Jun-2021 16:53

wellygary:

Does it look like the one on these pages , ( i.e the national booking system) or is the the local DHB one?

https://img.scoop.co.nz/media/pdfs/2106/Tier_4_rollout_slideshow.pdf

As per my post, my invite came from the 'Northern Region Health Coordination Centre Vaccination Team'. Only online link to that I can find through Google search is my own post!

I would guess it is MOH, Northern Region??? Local DHB is Waitemata. There is no mention of them in either the email or txt invites.

The emails come from "NMF Immunisation Bookings <no-reply@immunisation.nmf.nz>" and the website in the booking link is https://internal.immunisation.nmf.nz/...

The format of the Northern Region Health immunisation website looks very similar to the sites in the pdf you linked

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#2730257 17-Jun-2021 17:00

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a health condition requiring 2 or more meds.

So everyone over the age of 70 then?

I wouldn't know. But everyone over the age of 65 is already in Group 3.

I'm in Group 3, and registered to book a few days ago. Got a call back, arranged a time (tomorrow morning), and got a couple of reminder emails already, so I think I'm in the national booking system.

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#2730314 17-Jun-2021 17:47

The invitation as outlined by DS248 was how people in group 1 were invited to book for their jabs. The online system was simple, allowing you to choose time and place from drop down lists and automatically booked you at the same location 3 weeks and 1 hour after your first. The second appointment was able to be changed (to a later date/time). I was impressed how easy this was and assumed the process would be just as simple for my household contacts. Boy was I wrong. After hearing nothing for more than a month after my second jab I rang the helpline. “Yes they’re all on the register, and will have been contacted by now”. Nope. Checked the correct email and phone numbers were listed for them (they were). So everything had to be done ad hoc, over the phone.

A straw poll of my colleagues produced similar stories.

So after initial optimism due to my appointment experience, please excuse my pessimism that the other 7.5 million jabs will go smoothly.

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#2730317 17-Jun-2021 17:54

DS248:

The emails come from "NMF Immunisation Bookings <no-reply@immunisation.nmf.nz>" and the website in the booking link is https://internal.immunisation.nmf.nz/...

http://www.ourhealthhb.nz/ = http://www.ourhealthhb.nz/assets/CORONAVIRUS/HBDHB_Vaccination-Info-Booklet_general_v9.pdf = immunisation.nmf.nz = https://bookings.immunisation.nmf.nz/vam =

"This system has been developed for you in partnership with Northland, Waitematā, Auckland and Counties Manukau District Health Boards"

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#2730318 17-Jun-2021 17:55

Stewart Island has a weak positive case

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-stewart-island-child-case-jacinda-ardern-unveils-when-you-can-have-vaccine-jabs/MABUKKO7BCQBOT2KSBEJ77CHPU/

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#2730322 17-Jun-2021 17:58

Batman: Stewart Island has a weak positive case

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-coronavirus-stewart-island-child-case-jacinda-ardern-unveils-when-you-can-have-vaccine-jabs/MABUKKO7BCQBOT2KSBEJ77CHPU/

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=161&topicid=265423&page_no=1357#2730164

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#2730370 17-Jun-2021 19:08

Press release:

New Zealanders over 60 will be offered a vaccination from July 28 and those over 55 from August 11, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced today.

The rollout of the vaccine to the general population will be done in age groups as is the approach commonly used overseas, with those over 45 years to receive vaccine invitations from mid to late August, those over 35 years from mid to late September, and everyone else being eligible from October.

“Our vaccination programme is ahead of plan, with nearly one million doses administered and operating at 107% of target,” Jacinda Ardern said.

“From the end of July we will enter a new phase of our vaccination programme when we start receiving the bulk of our vaccines and are able to broaden the rollout considerably to the wider population.

“We’re rolling out the vaccine based on age bands because it’s a simple approach most commonly used overseas and because the risk of COVID increases as you get older.

“When it’s your age bands’ turn to be vaccinated you will receive an invitation from the Ministry of Health to make a booking. You will get this invite either by email, text, mail or by phone.

“People will be asked to use the new Book My Vaccine online national booking tool to book their first and second doses. People will also be able to phone a new national vaccination booking call centre to make a booking if they wish.

“To reach those we need to in a timely way, we will be putting in place measures such as mass vaccine events, work place vaccinations and vaccinations for entire rural and isolated communities all at once.

“The Ministry of Health is currently consulting with large New Zealand businesses and Business NZ. Fonterra and Mainfreight are already lined up to be involved.

“Just as in 2020 we asked the team of five million to stay home to save lives, in 2021 we need the team to get vaccinated to save lives.

“High levels of vaccination will ensure we retain our hard won freedoms and proud place as one of the few countries in the world without COVID in the community.

“This is the largest and most complex vaccination campaign New Zealand has ever run. We will keep making improvements as we go, but we are well positioned to ensure every eligible New Zealander will have the opportunity to be vaccinated by the end of the year,” Jacinda Ardern said.

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#2730381 17-Jun-2021 19:48

What was interesting about the PM's announcement today is that she's said our vaccine supplies are delayed further which is pretty significant.

In the past couple of months Chris Hipkins has said on multiple occasions that all of our Pfizer supply will be here by the end of Sept - and as most recently as a few weeks ago saying "Pfizer had not given the government its delivery schedule for the vaccine from July onwards, but said it has committed to delivering all the vaccines by the end of September."

The PM today said "However, while more vaccines were coming, they wouldn't all arrive at once. The bulk should arrive by the end of October, Ardern said."

I wonder how this is going to affect the rollout? Surely there would be contractual obligations if Pfizer had committed to the September delivery timeframe.

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#2730385 17-Jun-2021 20:05

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Surely there would be contractual obligations if Pfizer had committed to the September delivery timeframe.

There may have been target dates in the contract but there will be no penalties or downside for Pfizer to deliver late.

Pfizer, and all vaccine manufacturers, don't need to agree to penalty clauses, they have far more demand than they can supply. 10 million doses is a rounding error in their production target of 3 billion doses this year.

If a tiny customer like NZ wanted clauses that weren't in Pfizer's favour they'd just say "thanks but no thanks" and move on to more attractive customers.

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#2730449 18-Jun-2021 07:22

Handle9:

sbiddle:

Surely there would be contractual obligations if Pfizer had committed to the September delivery timeframe.

There may have been target dates in the contract but there will be no penalties or downside for Pfizer to deliver late.

Pfizer, and all vaccine manufacturers, don't need to agree to penalty clauses, they have far more demand than they can supply. 10 million doses is a rounding error in their production target of 3 billion doses this year.

If a tiny customer like NZ wanted clauses that weren't in Pfizer's favour they'd just say "thanks but no thanks" and move on to more attractive customers.

I don't necessarily expect penalty clauses, but when we've been told so often that Pfizer have committed to a time frame and we know that they haven't missed a single commitment delivery so far (I'm sure in part because NZ supplies are a rounding error as you say) it's surprising the PM now says the arrivals will be significantly delayed when we're still 3-4 months out.

One other aspect I find interesting is the fact we're still going to stick to age groups for group 4. We know that variants like Delta are making younger people just as sick as older people. Once groups 1-3 are done surely there is some logic in simply vaccinating people at random say based on their birthday rather than still sticking to predefined age groups.

By leaving all the under 35's until last there is nothing to stop a breakout somewhere like university dorm or apartment complex full of younger people where the reality might be that only a very small percentage are vaccinated due to falling into groups 1-3 or being family contacts. If a breakout occurred in say early October surely we'd be better to have had ~30% of people at such a location vaccinated which would do a lot to limit CT rather than having the odd person vaccinated.