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  #2765118 22-Aug-2021 21:11
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Stu: I agree with the sentiment of many/most/(hopefully all) here. Why not make it mandatory to scan/record entry at all essential locations (supermarkets, medical, etc) right now, and as we move down Alert Levels start making everywhere else compulsory? Just do it.

 

 

 

In the press conference, Hipkins said they were reviewing the penalties as well, which would require a law change. I'm not sure that retail is exempted in the change, I can't find a source for that - I'm hoping that its just that its exempted till the alert levels change - the rule doesn't come into force until alert levels change. I agree it should come in straight away, but depends on the actual wording of the order - if you have to have someone at the entrance confirming it, then that could take some time to setup for businesses. 

 

On a related note, I'd like to see that once you've signed in on the app the LED light flashes a certain colour (changeable by the business each day [for say 5 mins]) so that its easy enough to confirm - yes it can be faked, but alot quicker than trying to read that the person has actually signed in on the app and not just showing a photo of a random sign in. 

 

Was also interesting to hear in the media conference that Apple and Google wouldn't accept mandatory QR scanning as the only way to access businesses ....[has to be an alternative].

 

 

 

 

original announcement :  https://covid19.govt.nz/alert-levels-and-updates/latest-updates/record-keeping-to-become-mandatory-for-most-events-and-businesses/ 

 

Below is an extract from ... https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/126148560/covid-19-scanning-or-signing-in-to-become-mandatory-at-cafes-busy-venues-and-events-at-all-alert-levels (Personally i think that retail should be included)

 

The change will come into effect seven days after any alert level changes that allow more businesses to open. But the extent of the new policy is still unclear – officials are understood to still be working on exactly what sort of businesses will have to comply.

 

At this stage it is envisaged that supermarkets and diaries will be excluded on grounds of practicality, but venues where wearing a mask is impractical – such as bars and restaurants will be covered.

 

“A mandatory record keeping requirement for the retail sector was considered, but ultimately we agreed that the compliance burden for small businesses would be too onerous. We do encourage all businesses to promote use of QR codes and record keeping as much as possible,” Hipkins said.

 

“Our priority for mandatory record keeping is locations where mask wearing isn’t practical, for example where food and drink as being consumed, and where people gather in larger numbers. Experience here and abroad shows that these are the settings that prove the greatest challenge for contact tracers,” he said.

 

 




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  #2765128 22-Aug-2021 21:45
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Number of New Zealanders fully vaccinated passes 1 million

 

 

The COVID-19 vaccination programme has reached its most significant milestone to date, with more than 1 million people now fully vaccinated, says Minister for COVID-19 Response Chris Hipkins.

 

“Following a record day for the programme on Friday of 56,843 doses administered and a record weekend day yesterday with more than 50,000 doses delivered, today we’re celebrating another record:  one million people in New Zealand fully vaccinated,” Chris Hipkins said.

 

“In confirming this figure, I particularly want to acknowledge the health workforce in New Zealand. They’ve stepped up across the country – and particularly in Auckland at our testing centres, vaccination clinics and hospitals – and are continuing to deliver incredible numbers which we can all be proud of.

 

“With 2.75 million doses administered so far and 1.5 million active bookings in the Book My Vaccine system, we remain on track to give everyone eligible in Aotearoa the opportunity to be vaccinated by the end of the year.

 

“Yesterday, around 36,500 people received their first vaccination, and more than 15,600 had their second vaccination.

 

“On Friday, we also created a new priority group for essential workers, and since then more than 1,400 essential workers have had their first vaccination.

 

“Thanks to everyone who has either had the vaccine or has made a booking to get vaccinated.

 

“Your response means we’ve been able to open other age bands for vaccinations earlier than planned to keep the momentum going.

 

“Reaching this 1 million milestone is also due to the hard work of our district health boards and primary care providers, who have continued to add to our capacity to vaccinate people each week, as well as the number of sites where people can be vaccinated.

 

“Figures from yesterday show there are now more than 500 general practices and pharmacies administering the COVID-19 vaccine throughout the country, with more coming on stream.

 

“By getting vaccinated, people are protecting themselves,  their whānau and playing their part in protecting New Zealand.”

 





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  #2765133 22-Aug-2021 21:57
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sbiddle:

 

Media really seem to be struggling with how the app and changes to scanning will actually work. Newshub at 6pm tonight was a shocker - they keep going on about the low number of notifications send out by the app as well as the low number of Bluetooth notifications sent out.

 

They don't seem to understand the concept of how the Bluetooth proximity tracing actually works. The reason we've also got such a low number of app notifications is many of these events were large scale events (2 x 1000 at Spark arena) where scanning was not, and still won't be required as organisers are required to have records of everybody there. At schools it is much the same.

 

 

 

 

But the problem with the bluetooth notifications is that we can see how many keys our phones have received when they poll the server, and so far during this outbreak that number is one. Only one! Which was on Tuesday evening, so we can assume it was case A. And keys are cycled every 24 hours - so we should receive as many keys as there are days in a case's suspected infectious period. So for the 70 subsequent cases, we haven't received a single key - and given that until this outbreak 1.5 million people had bluetooth tracing enabled, it seems extremely unlikely that not a single one of these 70 cases had it enabled. But their keys haven't been posted to the server to alert us if we were in close proximity to them - not a single one - and it's not clear why.




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  #2765134 22-Aug-2021 21:58
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  #2765137 22-Aug-2021 22:01
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Sideface:

 


It's official - at 1595 pages, this discussion is now longer than the notorious "The Former President Of The USA: Donald Trump impeached twice" thread (a mere 1594 pages)  🙂

 

 

 

Congrats @batman for creating a topic that is the longest discussion to date, growing to this point four times faster than the Trump discussion and was permanently on top of the trending discussions since it was created back in January 2020 until now (at least).





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  #2765141 22-Aug-2021 22:19
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My wife went to our local New World this morning.

 

 

 

They won't let people take bags into the store. You have to scan before entering. You have to wear a mask. You have to leave with your groceries, collect your bags and bag them yourself at the car.

 

 

 

She found it unpleasant so I suggested we just stick to deliveries from now on.






 
 
 

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  #2765145 22-Aug-2021 22:29
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Geektastic:

 

My wife went to our local New World this morning.

 

They won't let people take bags into the store. You have to scan before entering. You have to wear a mask. You have to leave with your groceries, collect your bags and bag them yourself at the car.

 

She found it unpleasant so I suggested we just stick to deliveries from now on. 

 

 

 

Apart from the scanning and mask requirements, it worked like that at our local NW previously, even in L3 (bags left outside, pack them yourself outside).

 

Might not be easy to get delivery slots to suit.


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  #2765146 22-Aug-2021 22:29
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Minus the Masks, that was the same last year.

 

It is their policy to push car-loading. And not generate or hold up lines at the checkout. Kinda simple enough concept. (no stagnant or longer than required exposure in areas that may not be segregated) and peeve people off at demand - also means out faster, so more in faster.

 

Here they make you take a trolley (for spacing) regardless of what you are getting. But can still sneak through self-checkout and re-load the trolley on the way if quiet

 

Countdown also require car-loading. But will let you take in single bag to do low-volume out the self checks.

 

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  #2765152 22-Aug-2021 22:46
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freitasm:

 

Congrats batman for creating a topic that is the longest discussion to date, growing to this point four times faster than the Trump discussion and was permanently on top of the trending discussions since it was created back in January 2020 until now (at least).

 

 

well i am not sure if this is a good thing. i really rather we didn't have a global pandemic, one that is ongoing, and one that has really created an alternate reality for a major percentage of the world inc my relatives! hope we all get vaccinated and we can move on to the next phase of this glitch in the matrix.

 

but yeah lost for words really.

 

 


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  #2765157 22-Aug-2021 23:16
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Batman:

but yeah lost for words really.



Is that why you are only 3rd in the most replies list? :-)

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  #2765162 22-Aug-2021 23:38
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Geektastic:

 

My wife went to our local New World this morning.

 

 

 

They won't let people take bags into the store. You have to scan before entering. You have to wear a mask. You have to leave with your groceries, collect your bags and bag them yourself at the car.

 

 

 

She found it unpleasant so I suggested we just stick to deliveries from now on.

 

 

 

 

Wait, so what if you don't have a car/can't drive to the supermarket? Just take the shopping basket/cart home?

 

 


 
 
 
 

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  #2765163 22-Aug-2021 23:42
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Pack the bag in the fresh air outside and leave. I suspect if you didn't drive, you probably didn't buy much as you are planning to carry it home

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  #2765165 22-Aug-2021 23:43
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kyhwana2:

 

Wait, so what if you don't have a car/can't drive to the supermarket? Just take the shopping basket/cart home?

 

 

Ideally, if you have a vehicle. Leave them in it. Take trolley to.

 

If you are on foot and only for a few items. As prior, may be allowed to use self-checkout and load n go. Or will be asked to leave them at the foyer and collect on way out and load out the doors.


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  #2765168 22-Aug-2021 23:54
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kyhwana2:

 

Geektastic:

 

My wife went to our local New World this morning.

 

 

 

They won't let people take bags into the store. You have to scan before entering. You have to wear a mask. You have to leave with your groceries, collect your bags and bag them yourself at the car.

 

 

 

She found it unpleasant so I suggested we just stick to deliveries from now on.

 

 

 

 

Wait, so what if you don't have a car/can't drive to the supermarket? Just take the shopping basket/cart home?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Considering NZ wanting to move to high density living, and high public transport usage instead of private motor vehicles, it doesn't seem like it is compatible with the way NZ is moving to. But in reality NZers rely on private motor vehicles. 


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  #2765169 22-Aug-2021 23:57
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freitasm:

 

 

 

Congrats @batman for creating a topic that is the longest discussion to date, growing to this point four times faster than the Trump discussion and was permanently on top of the trending discussions since it was created back in January 2020 until now (at least).

 

 

 

 

Who would have thought when he first posted this topic way back before the NZ media were really onto it, that it would have gone like this. The world has changed a lot. 


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