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  #2777497 13-Sep-2021 13:19
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Man Delta is really hard to stop. Today's announcement at 4pm is going to be very interesting.. Rather than all the talk about dropping levels perhaps they will tighten (L5 anyone?) rules even further in Auckland. 





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  #2777498 13-Sep-2021 13:19
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Oblivian:

 

She said she was preparing an application for suppression, which would include details of the man’s parent’s occupation.

 

 

"Daddy..."





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  #2777500 13-Sep-2021 13:20
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tdgeek:

 

Batman:

 

if you lockdown a month and cases go up ... it's no longer about not changing levels, you could be looking at mutiny soon

 

 

People mutineering against themselves? 

 

 

People vote against their best interests all the time.





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  #2777503 13-Sep-2021 13:25
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Might it be rule breakers spreading it now? Surely the majority of family contacts would all be in isolation.

 

From the MOH.

 

  • Cases infectious in the community: Seven (35%) of yesterday’s 20 cases have exposure events
  • Cases in isolation throughout the period they were infected: 13 (65%) of yesterday’s 20 cases

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  #2777504 13-Sep-2021 13:25
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7 of yesterdays 20 cases were infectious in the community, not dissimilar to NSW dailies.


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  #2777505 13-Sep-2021 13:27
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Can the media hunt it down before the suppression order goes in? Someone must know the details in Wanaka.

 

Oblivian:

 

Yeah.

 

Above is underway already

 

One of the man’s parents is a high-ranking public official.

 

He referred questions to his lawyer, Auckland barrister Rachael Reed QC, when contacted by Stuff on Monday.

 

Reed said her client had no comment to make in relation to the allegations.

 

She said she was preparing an application for suppression, which would include details of the man’s parent’s occupation.

 


 
 
 

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  #2777506 13-Sep-2021 13:29
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tdgeek:

Batman:


if you lockdown a month and cases go up ... it's no longer about not changing levels, you could be looking at mutiny soon



People mutineering against themselves? 



No, as a double vaccined individual I’m already as “protected” as I can ever be, in Auckland specifically it’s just a walk in process now, only the really at risk (who will ALWAYS be so) and those who refuse (for whatever reason) are “vulnerable”

Time to move on is now?

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  #2777508 13-Sep-2021 13:31
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freitasm:

 

Oblivian:

 

She said she was preparing an application for suppression, which would include details of the man’s parent’s occupation.

 

 

"Daddy..."

 

 

They've already been 99% "outed".  The chance of some in the media not knowing exactly who they are is 0% IMO.

 

For reasons I probably shouldn't disclose here, if they get suppression then it should result in one hell of a response from the media.  The 26YO will probably lose her job. 

 

Play stupid games = win stupid prizes.


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  #2777509 13-Sep-2021 13:33
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KiwiBornBloke:

No, as a double vaccined individual I’m already as “protected” as I can ever be, in Auckland specifically it’s just a walk in process now, only the really at risk (who will ALWAYS be so) and those who refuse (for whatever reason) are “vulnerable”

Time to move on is now?

 

How nice for you. Too bad about the millions waiting for a 2nd jab.


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  #2777511 13-Sep-2021 13:35
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KiwiBornBloke:

No, as a double vaccined individual I’m already as “protected” as I can ever be, in Auckland specifically it’s just a walk in process now, only the really at risk (who will ALWAYS be so) and those who refuse (for whatever reason) are “vulnerable”

Time to move on is now?

 

Not sure what you are getting at. The question was mutiny, re alert levels not changing. Vaccinated or not, you would be affected. Who would mutiny against who? People vs the people, as only they can comply and stop the outbreak.


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  #2777512 13-Sep-2021 13:37
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more details says 32 are linked. so i gather 1 is unlinked (for now).


 
 
 

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  #2777513 13-Sep-2021 13:39
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tdgeek:

 

7 of yesterdays 20 cases were infectious in the community, not dissimilar to NSW dailies.

 

 

Yeah, but we don't know what that actually means, until they spell out potential locations of interest... 

 

Going out to the dairy for milk in the afternoon until you are contacted and then self isolate is hugely different to working at the supermarket for the last 2 weeks....

 

While the 33 cases today is a bad headline, all bar one are already linked, and that is one who visited middlemore  on Sat and now has a small household subcluster of 7 all testing positive....

 

Also it looks like the mystery cases are now down to 27.... which is progress

 

"Cases epidemiologically linked (total): 928 (in current cluster) "

 

"Location of community cases (total): Auckland 938 (360 of whom have recovered); Wellington 17 (12 of whom have recovered)"

 

https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media/media-releases/33-community-cases-covid-19-three-border-cases-managed-isolation-more-43-million-vaccines

 

 

 

 


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  #2777514 13-Sep-2021 13:42
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The Media Releases tend to be a better read for more info quickly.

 

Todays release states 

 

7 of todays cases came from one family.

 

all but 1 of todays case has been epidemiologically linked.

 

Out of the 17 subclusters 9 are epidemiologically unlinked.
So 8 are unlinked. Some of these must be more of concern than others.

 

It's not all doom and gloom yet.

 

We are talking about 7 people out of yesterdays cases that were infectious in the community out of the 20.
No telling what that means - illegal partying or just out for w walk to around the block for their exercise.
But regardless it's traceable.

 

No reason to give up now, overwhelm the hospitals and delay any routine medical surgery as the wards fill up will covid cases.


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  #2777515 13-Sep-2021 13:43
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tdgeek:

KiwiBornBloke:

No, as a double vaccined individual I’m already as “protected” as I can ever be, in Auckland specifically it’s just a walk in process now, only the really at risk (who will ALWAYS be so) and those who refuse (for whatever reason) are “vulnerable”

Time to move on is now?


Not sure what you are getting at. The question was mutiny, re alert levels not changing. Vaccinated or not, you would be affected. Who would mutiny against who? People vs the people, as only they can comply and stop the outbreak.



More like “Bondi Beach” … if Auckland get extended again the levels of compliance are going to drop like a lead balloon… lots of people on the local FB communities are saying they’re no longer willing to “take it up the wazoo” for the so-called team of 5 million.

Even really silly things like Non Aucklanders gloating about access to their takeaway of choice is now perceived as ‘inciting’ them. I’m a law abiding man too, but at _some_ point even a ‘good’ man will only take so much?

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  #2777517 13-Sep-2021 13:47
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wellygary:

 

tdgeek:

 

7 of yesterdays 20 cases were infectious in the community, not dissimilar to NSW dailies.

 

 

Yeah, but we don't know what that actually means, until they spell out potential locations of interest... 

 

Going out to the dairy for milk in the afternoon until you are contacted and then self isolate is hugely different to working at the supermarket for the last 2 weeks....

 

While the 33 cases today is a bad headline, all bar one are already linked, and that is one who visited middlemore  on Sat and now has a small household subcluster of 7 all testing positive....

 

Also it looks like the mystery cases are now down to 27.... which is progress

 

"Cases epidemiologically linked (total): 928 (in current cluster) "

 

"Location of community cases (total): Auckland 938 (360 of whom have recovered); Wellington 17 (12 of whom have recovered)"

 

https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media/media-releases/33-community-cases-covid-19-three-border-cases-managed-isolation-more-43-million-vaccines

 

 

True, but if you got a test surely you would stay at home until it was negative? If you gave it to the dairy, thats problematic too.

 

And if all bar one is linked, that doesn't tell us if they were infectious in the community, it just means a cluster is still spreading but at least not a new cluster?


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