NumPy:

 

And what is the benefit to society as a whole?

 

Society gets to help me not be in chronic and agonising pain 24/7.  

gzt: The first post does not make much sense to me. What is a 'nug'? Why is the 'bottleneck' awaiting 'Buds'?

It's been edited down from the original post.  Which was equal parts glorious and illegible.  

gehenna:

 

NumPy:

 

And what is the benefit to society as a whole?

 

 

Society gets to help me not be in chronic and agonising pain 24/7.  

 

You can be prescribed CBD now from a qualified doctor?

Rikkitic:

 

Let's turn that around. Can you give me sources for the actual harm cannabis causes (other than the harm that comes from it being illegal and supplied by gangs)? Not anecdotal accounts about vulnerable individuals, but actual, peer-reviewed research? Can you show me solid evidence that legalising it in the New Zealand context will create more problems than it solves? Can you demonstrate why something that public figures joke about using on TV and other media is such a dangerous menace? Comparisons with alcohol are old and tired but still valid. Where is the logic in tolerating something as hazardous to health as grog while banning something so many times less problematic? The law is an ass, and the more of an ass it is, the less respect people have for it. Creating a little more consistency might help to boost that respect a tiny bit. Most people are law-abiding if they can see a valid reason for the law they are asked to abide by.

 

  

 

Or we could NOT turn it around, and you could answer the questions to the arguments *you* put forward :)

networkn:

 

You can be prescribed CBD now from a qualified doctor?

 

I'm aware, and it cost me around $350 for 10 days worth. 

gehenna:

 

 

 

I'm aware, and it cost me around $350 for 10 days worth. 

 

Why is it so expensive? Under the proposed changes, how much will it cost?

It's not subsidised.  One would hope that under a new model Pharmac can bulk buy and govt will subsidise.  Currently cheaper to source the components and make it myself. 

networkn:

 

Or we could NOT turn it around, and you could answer the questions to the arguments *you* put forward :)

 

I could, but I can't be bothered. We have been through all this before on the other threads. What it always comes back to is people who want to prevent other people from doing something because they don't approve of it. Feel free not to use cannabis in any form. That is your good right. Just don't dump the reefer madness BS on me just because you have succumbed to the kool-aid.  

gehenna:

 

It's not subsidised.  One would hope that under a new model Pharmac can bulk buy and govt will subsidise.  Currently cheaper to source the components and make it myself. 

 

So it's not actually confirmed then?

Not to my knowledge.  I'm assuming things will get easier for imports and manufacturing post-referendum 

Rikkitic:

 

networkn:

 

Or we could NOT turn it around, and you could answer the questions to the arguments *you* put forward :)

 

 

I could, but I can't be bothered. We have been through all this before on the other threads. What it always comes back to is people who want to prevent other people from doing something because they don't approve of it. Feel free not to use cannabis in any form. That is your good right. Just don't dump the reefer madness BS on me just because you have succumbed to the kool-aid.  

 

 

 

*I* didn't dump anything on anyone, I was asking you for evidence to support the claims you made.

You are no more likely to accept evidence to go against your passionate beliefs than the "zealots" of the opposing views to you.

Unsurprisingly, for the studies you can provide supporting your position, there will be ones which counteract it.

gehenna:

 

It's not subsidised.  One would hope that under a new model Pharmac can bulk buy and govt will subsidise.  Currently cheaper to source the components and make it myself. 

 

I'm sure you meant taxpayer subsidized? I don't think there is such a thing as government subsidized.

gehenna:

 

Not to my knowledge.  I'm assuming things will get easier for imports and manufacturing post-referendum 

 

In my experience, assuming something will happen, just because it's logical, as a result of a legal change, is likely to lead to disappointment. For your sake, if this goes through, I hope it works out that way, but I have my doubts.

I'd go off what you can see has been proposed (in writing) and not a single another thing.

Rikkitic:

 

NumPy:

 

And what is the benefit to society as a whole?

 

 

Is that a serious question? How about immense police resources no longer being wasted on searching the bush for cannabis plantations, but being redirected to the real scourge of methamphetamine and other truly dangerous substances? How about the court system and prisons no longer being tied up with pointless cannabis prosecutions? How about reduced pressure on health services thanks to the integration of medicinal cannabis and significant improvements in many patients' conditions as a result? I can think of more if you like.

 

 

 

How much additional money is it going to cost to test drivers for Cannabis?

I can only see our road death toll getting worse when this is legalized, not better. Is that not a big disadvantage to society as a whole? Having had a close relative killed by a drunk/drugged while this is illegal, I can only imagine the rate of drugged drivers to increase when/if legalized.