2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2854968 22-Jan-2022 19:30

@Batman:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/covid-19-samoa-to-go-into-nationwide-lockdown-after-brisbane-flight-cases-rise/76BPDBSZF3UFRPJHY4REVERIIY/

Can you please stop posting just a link and back it up with a quick title and a summary.

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#2855001 22-Jan-2022 23:48

Geektastic: Just. Shut. The. Border.

That way we can all get on with normal life whilst the scientists develop a vaccine that is even better.

The way the border is now appears to place 5+ million at significant risk merely for the benefit of a very few.

That's a pretty extreme suggestion.

A closed border would see see NZ in major strife fairly soon. Fuel & Pharmaceuticals would become in short supply pretty fast. And with no physical exports income would be slashed massively, costing our economy heaps. To bad tonga - can't send aid, or border is closed...

New Zealanders offshore could end up effectively stateless, and there is a real risk that countries wound stop allowing New Zealanders in, given there is no way to deport them.

And it's not like new vaccines are going to be ready in a couple of weeks. Pfizer CEO said on Jan 10 that their forthcoming omicron-specific vaccine would be ready in march. Then comes the approval processes, getting stock etc. Seems to take months between vaccines being offered in the USA and here. And having a omicron / influenza / RSV wave hit us in winter would be bad, so we would need to hold out to next summer before re-opening.

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#2855027 23-Jan-2022 09:09

Scott3:
A closed border would see see NZ in major strife fairly soon. Fuel & Pharmaceuticals would become in short supply pretty fast. And with no physical exports income would be slashed massively, costing our economy heaps. To bad tonga - can't send aid, or border is closed...

New Zealanders offshore could end up effectively stateless, and there is a real risk that countries wound stop allowing New Zealanders in, given there is no way to deport them.

We are already on thin ice. Emirates was running a near freight only 777 to chc. It was silently withdrawn on Nov 30. We now have Singapore and the AirNZ propped up LA and asia mixed freight occasional flights only

Others are considering withdrawal from akl too which will really screw us. NZ is not high on the money maker list after 2 years of limiting passenger movement.

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#2855033 23-Jan-2022 09:29

Unscheduled PM announcement at 11am, so we know what that means. The official Omicron outbreak

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#2855034 23-Jan-2022 09:30

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300501860/covid19-nz-jacinda-ardern-to-hold-unplanned-omicron-press-conference-at-11am

Unscheduled press conference by the PM at 11am

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@tdgeek beat me to it

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#2855035 23-Jan-2022 09:37

I've sent the wife to the supermarket as soon as I saw the unplanned conference.

We aren't bulk buying, just doing our regular weekly shop. Don't want to br stuck in line for hours and hours after the conference ends.

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#2855036 23-Jan-2022 09:37

cshwone:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300501860/covid19-nz-jacinda-ardern-to-hold-unplanned-omicron-press-conference-at-11am

Unscheduled press conference by the PM at 11am

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@tdgeek beat me to it

Ive read that 5 flights are LOI's, so aside from some known or possible Omicron being in a few centres including SI, the flights are probably the largest concern, One Bunnings store in one location is one thing but 5 national flights is a few steps worse potentially

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#2855037 23-Jan-2022 09:39

heavenlywild: I've sent the wife to the supermarket as soon as I saw the unplanned conference.

We aren't bulk buying, just doing our regular weekly shop. Don't want to br stuck in line for hours and hours after the conference ends.

Yep, particularly as in Red Light (assuming that might happen) still means all retail is still open, its not a toilet paper lockdown thing now.

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#2855038 23-Jan-2022 09:41

cshwone:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300501860/covid19-nz-jacinda-ardern-to-hold-unplanned-omicron-press-conference-at-11am

Unscheduled press conference by the PM at 11am

Edit:

@tdgeek beat me to it

we knew this day was coming when PM had earlier unscheduled press conference fronting earlier this week.

this morning on Stuff C Hipkins said we are trying to get covid to become endemic in a gentle way

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#2855039 23-Jan-2022 09:42

@tdgeek, totally right. Unfortunately, I sense people will go nuts and bulk buy again.

We've seen during this pandemic how humans don't learn from even the recent past.

Food and supplies will not run out if we don't buy for a family of 100 when we only have 4 in the house!

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#2855040 23-Jan-2022 09:47

Batman:

this morning on Stuff C Hipkins said we are trying to get covid to become endemic in a gentle way

Thats a bit of a twisted comment.

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#2855041 23-Jan-2022 09:53

tdgeek:

Batman:

this morning on Stuff C Hipkins said we are trying to get covid to become endemic in a gentle way

Thats a bit of a twisted comment.

What was actually reported was:

"The coronavirus will eventually become “endemic” in New Zealand, and there may be “significant” changes to the borders in the first half of 2022, Covid-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins says.

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#2855042 23-Jan-2022 09:59

Oh if only we could go back to January 2020 knowing what we know how, things may have been a little different.

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#2855043 23-Jan-2022 10:00

tdgeek:

heavenlywild: I've sent the wife to the supermarket as soon as I saw the unplanned conference.

We aren't bulk buying, just doing our regular weekly shop. Don't want to br stuck in line for hours and hours after the conference ends.

Yep, particularly as in Red Light (assuming that might happen) still means all retail is still open, its not a toilet paper lockdown thing now.

personally i cant tell the difference between orange and red

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#2855045 23-Jan-2022 10:01

11am Presser = Nationwide Red Traffic Light, probably.

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