2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2896059 3-Apr-2022 09:55

I went to the supermarket yesterday and still found QR posters (both New World and Countdown) but small versions and somewhere hard to find unless you are looking for them.

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#2896081 3-Apr-2022 10:35

Batman:

Anyway, it won't be funny if one day it causes a real pandemic.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/118920223/humantohuman-transmission-confirmed-in-china-coronavirus

First post in this thread, dated 21 January 2020.

Two years later and 35,000 replies... 490 million infected and 6.15 million dead worldwide.

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#2896159 3-Apr-2022 11:36

And the UK hitting a new high last week of 4.9 million infections.

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#2896193 3-Apr-2022 13:38

geekIT:

Anyone know when the flu-jab-season starts here in Sealand? I always get the vaccination but I don't remember when they become available.

Heads-up to my earlier post:

I'm now booked for a regular flu shot tomorrow at our local clinic. As usual, no cost to me (81) but they generously included a gratis flu jab for my wife (59). I'm also impressed by the clinic doctors popping outside to summon patients waiting in their vehicles.

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#2896491 4-Apr-2022 07:06

guy takes 90 vaccine shots to sell passes

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/man-in-germany-gets-90-vaccine-shots-to-sell-forged-passes-with-real-batch-numbers/3FTWNTFIJTZFOKEKPZATZV6USI/

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#2896589 4-Apr-2022 09:59

I am still uneasy about the removal of some restrictions and there is a presser today about moving down a traffic light level ...

I knew the day would come when we open back up, but it doesn't mean I have to like it.

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#2896591 4-Apr-2022 10:01

nzkiwiman:

I knew the day would come when we open back up, but it doesn't mean I have to like it.

As mentioned before, yes we have to live with it. But the consequences are that business will be impacted now, with people getting sick and either a) not coming to work or b) not coming to the city so no commerce for small retail/hospitality.

People asked to open up completely. There are consequences.

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#2896622 4-Apr-2022 11:12

freitasm:

As mentioned before, yes we have to live with it. But the consequences are that business will be impacted now, with people getting sick and either a) not coming to work or b) not coming to the city so no commerce for small retail/hospitality.

People asked to open up completely. There are consequences.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but isn't that implying that businesses haven't already been hugely impacted?

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#2896670 4-Apr-2022 11:14

Paul1977:

freitasm:

As mentioned before, yes we have to live with it. But the consequences are that business will be impacted now, with people getting sick and either a) not coming to work or b) not coming to the city so no commerce for small retail/hospitality.

People asked to open up completely. There are consequences.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but isn't that implying that businesses haven't already been hugely impacted?

Of course they have, but now the government assistance is limited or gone. Welcome to business as usual!

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#2896684 4-Apr-2022 11:35

I have no issue with the dropping of passes and mandates, and here's my rational:

4% of the 12+ population are vaccinated (according to MoH). Since 1 August 2021 only 5.5% of cases have been unvaccinated 12+ people (according to RNZ). It would seem the unvaccinated are not significantly more likely to contract Covid (and therefore spread it) than vaccinated individuals.

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#2896691 4-Apr-2022 11:38

Paul1977:

I have no issue with the dropping of passes and mandates, and here's my rational:

4% of the 12+ population are vaccinated (according to MoH). Since 1 August 2021 only 5.5% of cases have been unvaccinated 12+ people (according to RNZ). It would seem the unvaccinated are not significantly more likely to contract Covid (and therefore spread it) than vaccinated individuals.

Your statement makes no sense. The numbers seem wrong.

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#2896735 4-Apr-2022 12:51

Countdown chc airport had, until recently left a qr on the back of their footpath sign.
One on the glass of trolley return. And one on the internal door no bigger than a birthday card

Obscure enough to give one to anyone still active or required to (have had memos that there are still businesses that want to know our movements or require passes for work..). I gathered it may have been for the benefit of customs etc who appeared religious in it.

Today however, Either had disgruntled visitors (ripped some and portions left) or been given follow up instructions told to strip them. No sign at all.

So may find your obscure found ones gone soon too F.

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#2896760 4-Apr-2022 13:51

Lunch at Riverside Market in CHCH today, a few signs still up outside about it being a vaccine pass area, yet no asked when ordering. Will take a while for things to disappear I guess. Mixture of masked and unmasked inside the market too, and even the outlet I ordered from the operator was unmasked.

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#2896842 4-Apr-2022 16:01

freitasm:

Paul1977:

I have no issue with the dropping of passes and mandates, and here's my rational:

4% of the 12+ population are vaccinated (according to MoH). Since 1 August 2021 only 5.5% of cases have been unvaccinated 12+ people (according to RNZ). It would seem the unvaccinated are not significantly more likely to contract Covid (and therefore spread it) than vaccinated individuals.

Your statement makes no sense. The numbers seem wrong.

under here https://www.health.govt.nz/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-data-and-statistics/covid-19-case-demographics#vaccinations-details

if i did the math,

32,000 unvaccinated cases / [ 540,000 vaccinated (2 or more doses) cases + 32,000 unvaccinated + 10,000 partially vaccinated]

= 5.5%

which is about the same as unvaccinated to vaccinated in the population

so he has a point

i'm not saying the data is 100% accurate, it depends on who tests who does tests, who doesn't report, false negative of RATs, a handful of cases are pre Omicron, etc

but just going on official data he has a point

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#2896883 4-Apr-2022 17:23

freitasm:

Paul1977:

I have no issue with the dropping of passes and mandates, and here's my rational:

4% of the 12+ population are vaccinated (according to MoH). Since 1 August 2021 only 5.5% of cases have been unvaccinated 12+ people (according to RNZ). It would seem the unvaccinated are not significantly more likely to contract Covid (and therefore spread it) than vaccinated individuals.

Your statement makes no sense. The numbers seem wrong.

As @Batman pointed out this calculation is based on official numbers. But I should have said Omicron rather than COVID as my understanding is that the vaccine did offer much better prevention against infection of earlier variants.

Note that I aren't endorsing not getting vaccinated. Even though the data would appear to show it does very little in preventing an Omicron infection, it very clearly shows that the unvaccinated are far more likely to get severely ill if they do become infected.

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