2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#2900077 11-Apr-2022 22:48

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/04/ministry-of-health-reports-third-death-linked-to-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine.html

Jesus, I can almost imagine the antivaxx crowd foaming at the mouth over this 🙁

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#2900088 11-Apr-2022 23:13

I’m just waiting for the flyers stating that “xyz vaccine has killed off the South Island”

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#2900171 12-Apr-2022 08:34

cokemaster: I’m just waiting for the flyers stating that “xyz vaccine has killed off the South Island”

And any contact you may still have with someone saying they're from the South Island is fake - they're paid crisis actors!

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#2902068 13-Apr-2022 18:18

So, orange light tonight.

Who else thinks they are jumping the gun a bit as we still are getting 8000+ cases a day?

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#2902071 13-Apr-2022 18:22

Daynger:

So, orange light tonight.

Who else thinks they are jumping the gun a bit as we still are getting 8000+ cases a day?

Who knows. For every person that thinks we are jumping the gun, the same number are saying why so long. Time will tell

A pertinent point for me, is he other day we reached 500 deaths. But only 51 were due to Covid. The rest had other causes but happened to have Covid as well.

Assuming there will be many more venues with more people, it will spread more. If thats a problem, its hard to know.

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#2902072 13-Apr-2022 18:25

Daynger:
So, orange light tonight.

Who else thinks they are jumping the gun a bit as we still are getting 8000+ cases a day?

Yah, I expect a massive spike after Easter & ANZAC weekends.

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#2902074 13-Apr-2022 18:25

Daynger:

So, orange light tonight.

Who else thinks they are jumping the gun a bit as we still are getting 8000+ cases a day?

Politics and epidemics do not mix well.

This was a political decision, and a premature one, in my opinion.

Other countries have made the same mistake, to their cost.

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#2902077 13-Apr-2022 18:35

Sideface:

Politics and epidemics do not mix well.

This was a political decision, and a premature one, in my opinion.

Other countries have made the same mistake, to their cost.

Agree, I wonder what will happen here politically if it blows out

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#2902084 13-Apr-2022 18:41

tdgeek: A pertinent point for me, is he other day we reached 500 deaths. But only 51 were due to Covid. The rest had other causes but happened to have Covid as well.

I looked for this stat. Where is it from?

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#2902120 13-Apr-2022 19:56

tdgeek:

Sideface:

Politics and epidemics do not mix well.

This was a political decision, and a premature one, in my opinion.

Other countries have made the same mistake, to their cost.

Agree, I wonder what will happen here politically if it blows out

The Opposition is saying we should just scrap the traffic lights system altogether, although I don't know what their wonderful alternative would be.

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#2902124 13-Apr-2022 20:08

gzt: Where is it from?

Bottom right 2nd.table

https://www.health.govt.nz/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-data-and-statistics/covid-19-case-demographics#deaths

It was separated and highlighted on the death count focus articles last few days.

Of the 51 deaths that have been officially coded as due to COVID-19, 4 occurred more than 28 days after testing positive. In addition, COVID-19 has been coded as contributing to 8 deaths. Of the deaths that occurred within 28 days, 1 have been ruled as not related to COVID-19 and 441 deaths are yet to be classified.

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#2902162 13-Apr-2022 21:56

Zigg:
Daynger:

So, orange light tonight.

Who else thinks they are jumping the gun a bit as we still are getting 8000+ cases a day?

Yah, I expect a massive spike after Easter & ANZAC weekends.

given there are less than half the anzac day services going ahead in Auckland i dont think it will be as big an issue as you think.

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#2902166 13-Apr-2022 22:14

I'm thinking more of the 2 long weekends with those out partying it up at the bars and clubs.

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#2902169 13-Apr-2022 22:55

tdgeek: ... A pertinent point for me, is he other day we reached 500 deaths. But only 51 were due to Covid. The rest had other causes but happened to have Covid as well.

Oblivian: gzt: Where is it from?

Oblivian:

Bottom right 2nd.table

https://www.health.govt.nz/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-data-and-statistics/covid-19-case-demographics#deaths

It was separated and highlighted on the death count focus articles last few days.

Of the 51 deaths that have been officially coded as due to COVID-19, 4 occurred more than 28 days after testing positive. In addition, COVID-19 has been coded as contributing to 8 deaths. Of the deaths that occurred within 28 days, 1 have been ruled as not related to COVID-19 and 441 deaths are yet to be classified.

That is very different from '... But only 51 were due to Covid. The rest had other causes but happened to have Covid as well.'

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#2902172 13-Apr-2022 23:07

tdgeek:
Sideface:

Politics and epidemics do not mix well.

This was a political decision, and a premature one, in my opinion.

Other countries have made the same mistake, to their cost.

Agree, I wonder what will happen here politically if it blows out

If it blows out, politically they probably think they are fine as the opposition is all for reducing restrictions. But with reducing vaccination immunity and more people inside over winter, and poor ventilation in unmasked schools , and windows not being left open due to the cold, I can't see how we won't have another wave over winter. Other countries are getting resurgents and we are going to get XE. I heard from a teacher that they are now getting students who are now getting their second infection.

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