2019 Novel Coronavirus Covid-19 Discussion

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#3168079 4-Dec-2023 17:27

Isn't what was suggested earlier that he did have a claim of right, because he had access to that database as part of his job - even if using the data in this purpose was not related to his job? I suppose they could play dumb and state an assumption that because he had access to it, that he believed this was allowed...and thus it didn't meet the "and without claim of right" requirement regardless of whether it caused a loss?

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#3168082 4-Dec-2023 17:37

The Palmy Wingnuts had a sign "Free the whistle blower"

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#3168084 4-Dec-2023 17:43

sir1963:

The Palmy Wingnuts had a sign "Free the whistle blower"

LOL, whistleblower my ass. Amazing how anyone who disagrees with the government these days is (somehow) magically a "whistleblower".

It looks like Liz Gunn is on the run now too after her "whistleblower" has been arrested.

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#3168085 4-Dec-2023 17:43

Canuckabroad:

Isn't what was suggested earlier that he did have a claim of right, because he had access to that database as part of his job - even if using the data in this purpose was not related to his job? I suppose they could play dumb and state an assumption that because he had access to it, that he believed this was allowed...and thus it didn't meet the "and without claim of right" requirement regardless of whether it caused a loss?

That access would ONLY be as part of his job, what he did was completely outside of the requirements of his job.

ANY and ALL information available was not his to take, he had zero ownership rights over the information.

I would argue the emotional etc harm done to the victims of the information leak is a loss too.

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#3168087 4-Dec-2023 17:48

quickymart:

sir1963:

The Palmy Wingnuts had a sign "Free the whistle blower"

LOL, whistleblower my ass. Amazing how anyone who disagrees with the government these days is (somehow) magically a "whistleblower".

It looks like Liz Gunn is on the run now too after her "whistleblower" has been arrested.

She and the idiot both deserve the maximum sentence with no parole.

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#3168193 4-Dec-2023 21:32

Canuckabroad:

Isn't what was suggested earlier that he did have a claim of right, because he had access to that database as part of his job - even if using the data in this purpose was not related to his job? I suppose they could play dumb and state an assumption that because he had access to it, that he believed this was allowed...and thus it didn't meet the "and without claim of right" requirement regardless of whether it caused a loss?

This

Unless his Employment Agreement or other policy statement that he has read and agreed to by signing it is clearly worded to the contrary it, might be difficult to get a conviction.

If he insists that "I believed I was entitled to access & use that data and nobody ever told me to the contrary" and says "look how careful I was to protect individual privacy, all the information I made available to inform the public was anonymised, I believe(d) I was acting in good faith" and there's nothing written down & signed to the contrary, it's maybe down to the alternative charge:

Health Act 1956 Section 22C (4)
Information provided or obtained under Part 3A may not be used or disclosed by anyone except as authorised or required under a provision of this Act or another Act

And the maximum penalty is
Health Act 1956 Section 136
Every person who commits an offence against this Act, or against any regulations made under this Act, for which no penalty is provided elsewhere than in this section is liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $500

Which would be correctly perceived by the public as a disastrous fail by Te Whatu Ora

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#3169044 6-Dec-2023 21:04

I have no words. Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones interviews Te Whatu Ora staffer Barry Young, charged over Covid-19 data leak - NZ Herald

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#3169045 6-Dec-2023 21:06

freitasm:

I have no words. Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones interviews Te Whatu Ora staffer Barry Young, charged over Covid-19 data leak - NZ Herald

He probably thinks he is a hero, rather than just a useful idiot who will left hung out to dry.

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#3169067 6-Dec-2023 21:44

I dunno, I've always thought as soon as you did an interview with a nutjob like Alex Jones, all your credibility goes out the window - although it doesn't sound like this idiot had much to begin with.

Come to think of it, why is he even giving interviews with anyone? Isn't he meant to be on bail and not meant to be accessing the internet?

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#3169071 6-Dec-2023 21:56

Stuff reports Young and Liz Gunn tried to contact Winston Peters for several days and failed then Young emailed several members of parliament including the prime minister:

Stuff: Winston Peters and the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet (DPMC) have been approached for comment regarding what communication they received, and what action was taken. Peters’ office declined comment when approached by Stuff.

Stuff reports Barry Young is also known as Winston Smith aka the main character of 1984 by George Orwell.

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#3169083 6-Dec-2023 23:03

freitasm:

I have no words. Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones interviews Te Whatu Ora staffer Barry Young, charged over Covid-19 data leak - NZ Herald

I’m taking it that “Alex Jones” conspiracy theorist , is also the same Alex Jones currently going through the Bankruptcy process, after being fount liable for $1.5 Billion in damages to the families of the victims of the Sandy Hook massacre...

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#3169091 6-Dec-2023 23:50

Yes, one in the same.

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#3172197 15-Dec-2023 21:55

So, what's happening with the self-described "whistleblower"? Has he got a court date yet? Is "lawyer" Sue Grey (lol) representing him?

I believe that Liz Gunn has completely gone to ground and is "taking a break" over Christmas and New Year, instead getting her poorly-dressed henchma...er...sidekick - I think the "cameraman" involved in the assault at Auckland Airport earlier this year - to host videos in her absence.

Man I wish I could take that much time off and still watch the grift...er..."donations" keep rolling in 🙄

In a similar vein, this person shouldn't be teaching anyone, anything, anywhere, ever:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/tauranga-boys-college-distances-itself-from-teacher-after-covid-19-whistleblower-email-to-herald/SDFXPFEXWJBXZOFXHXXIPRBB6M/

No way in hell would I let him anywhere near my kids.

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#3172200 15-Dec-2023 22:51

Drawers and boxes of RATs into bins at present. The main supplies all hitting expiry Nov/dec.

Free until Feb 21 only. I know a lot of workplaces still using them to filter out outbreaks. I guess since the likes of chemist warehouse are still selling them they'll continue to cash in until theirs do.

Now to find someone doing walk ins for #5

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#3172206 15-Dec-2023 23:13

My local Chemist Warehouse is giving RATs away for free.

Expiry is Feb 24.

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