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#2443598 22-Mar-2020 11:49

I'm not the numbers guy here but https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12270554

40,000 empty houses and apartments in Auckland

Is that enough?

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#2443599 22-Mar-2020 11:52

MoH has updated current cases.

Only two now still "under investigation" - all the rest are "travel related", but several appear to have possibly contracted the disease on domestic flights - or (presumably - otherwise) "unknown", so community transfer appears to be well underway in my opinion.

Batten down - the next few days are likely to be pretty rough I think. Maybe not a large jump in cases today - but as they track down passengers on those domestic flights and their contacts to find the index case on the plane, which will take days to trace, test and report.

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#2443601 22-Mar-2020 11:54

Spent last Friday looking at critical systems (e.g. physical machines) but will have to make working out which documents and software tools we need to keep the business functioning on a day-to-day basis priority one tomorrow.

We have the cloud resources so this is not an issue but we have not used it specifically with en masse WFH before, so critical documents/tools are still hosted on a local server.

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#2443602 22-Mar-2020 11:57

gchiu:

I'm not the numbers guy here but https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12270554

40,000 empty houses and apartments in Auckland

Is that enough?

Thats enough. We can ask people to self isolate there. Like we do anyway. How fast CT spreads is down to people playing the game. Will these people self isolate at a better rate than the incoming travellers? Oh wait, they are incoming travellers.

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#2443604 22-Mar-2020 12:01

Fred99:

MoH has updated current cases.

Only two now still "under investigation" - all the rest are "travel related", but several appear to have possibly contracted the disease on domestic flights - or (presumably - otherwise) "unknown", so community transfer appears to be well underway in my opinion.

Batten down - the next few days are likely to be pretty rough I think. Maybe not a large jump in cases today - but as they track down passengers on those domestic flights and their contacts to find the index case on the plane, which will take days to trace, test and report.

I wondered about 44 and 51 yesterday, as we only have two that are potentially CT, they are Under Investugation.so 44 and 51 are seen as travel related which is odd.

Unless 44 and 51 are the potential CT two?

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#2443605 22-Mar-2020 12:03

Possibly, and a gut feel, is that when CT becomes a reality and not a "news discussion item" , this may tighten up the lax attitudes of some?

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#2443606 22-Mar-2020 12:04

tdgeek:

gchiu:

I'm not the numbers guy here but https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12270554

40,000 empty houses and apartments in Auckland

Is that enough?

Thats enough. We can ask people to self isolate there. Like we do anyway. How fast CT spreads is down to people playing the game. Will these people self isolate at a better rate than the incoming travellers? Oh wait, they are incoming travellers.

R0 is entirely dependent on human behaviour.

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#2443607 22-Mar-2020 12:05

tdgeek:

Possibly, and a gut feel, is that when CT becomes a reality and not a "news discussion item" , this may tighten up the lax attitudes of some?

NZ and the USA have a culture of exceptionalism. That's going to kill a lot of americans.

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#2443608 22-Mar-2020 12:06

GV27:

Spent last Friday looking at critical systems (e.g. physical machines) but will have to make working out which documents and software tools we need to keep the business functioning on a day-to-day basis priority one tomorrow.

We have the cloud resources so this is not an issue but we have not used it specifically with en masse WFH before, so critical documents/tools are still hosted on a local server.

Hope it goes well. A week of the expected teething issues, and plain sailing I hope.

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#2443610 22-Mar-2020 12:09

gchiu:

R0 is entirely dependent on human behaviour.

I agree, so that's the aim, where they live/stay isn't IMHO.

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#2443611 22-Mar-2020 12:11

New York Times: Movie Theater Owners: We Need a Bailout, Too

With movie theaters across the country shutting their doors and furloughing the majority of their hourly workers, the National Association of Theater Owners asked Congress and the Trump administration on Wednesday for relief measures meant to help multiplexes stay solvent until business can resume.

In an effort to combat the spread of the coronavirus, the top 10 theater chains in the United States have shut down or are in the process of closing. Once the planned shutdown is complete, 89 percent of screens across the country will be dark.

The National Association of Theater Owners, a trade group representing more than 33,000 screens in 50 states, asked the federal government for loan guarantees to help the industry through a time when strangers cannot gather in the dark to see the latest films. The association has also asked for tax benefits to help theater owners pay their workers and make up for their losses.

...The National Association of Theater Owners also said it would draw $1 million from its reserves for movie theater employees put out of work because of the coronavirus-related shutdown. The movie studios are expected to contribute to the fund.
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#2443613 22-Mar-2020 12:11

tdgeek:

I wondered about 44 and 51 yesterday, as we only have two that are potentially CT, they are Under Investugation.so 44 and 51 are seen as travel related which is odd.

Unless 44 and 51 are the potential CT two?

Maybe I misinterpreted "travel related" to mean possibly local rather than international. It seems very odd to me to state "travel related" and reference local flight numbers, but not to state where that person had been overseas.

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#2443627 22-Mar-2020 12:17

Fred99:

tdgeek:

I wondered about 44 and 51 yesterday, as we only have two that are potentially CT, they are Under Investugation.so 44 and 51 are seen as travel related which is odd.

Unless 44 and 51 are the potential CT two?

Maybe I misinterpreted "travel related" to mean possibly local rather than international. It seems very odd to me to state "travel related" and reference local flight numbers, but not to state where that person had been overseas.

I expect we will see that scarified today. I typed clarified but typo and spellcheck made it scarified. Maybe a message there :-)

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#2443628 22-Mar-2020 12:19

if those infected persons travelled on domestic flights then maybe those unemployed AirNZ staff could contact them all to make sure they are staying at home as much as possible until there's no possibility of transmission.

Modern airplanes have self contained areas of air flow and filters so that cross infection is unlikely .. but the prop planes used on regional flights, are they the same? (Bombardiers etc)

Also, scientists in China have shown that aerosol generation occurs near toilets shedding virus into the air as long lasting aerosols vs normal droplets which are short lived. Luckily toilets on planes don't flush.

But everyone, put the lid down when you flush because plumes of fecal bacteria (and sars-cov-2) are generated on flushing.

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#2443629 22-Mar-2020 12:19

tdgeek:

Possibly, and a gut feel, is that when CT becomes a reality and not a "news discussion item" , this may tighten up the lax attitudes of some?

Nope, it won't happen.

I used to live next to the type of young riff-raff described by others in this thread. They are disengaged from mainstream society and from the media, so they wouldn't understand what this is all about. They might have heard that there is a virus going around, but they would have no idea of the implications or their social responsibilities.

It will be interesting to see how the public health measures are policed, and whether the resources are realistically available to do so.

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