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  #2819339 25-Nov-2021 19:22
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mattwnz:
NZ agreed to the two way transtasman bubble so NZ took that risk. We ended up paying a pretty high price for it. Not sure if any other cases have leaked through the border from other countries since then. Or if all cases can still be Epidemiologically linked back to that case returning from Oz

 

A very expensive mistake. The bubble should have waited until 90% plus vaxed and there might very well have been no Auckland shutdown.

 

 

no outbreak means poor vaccine uptake. chicken and egg story




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  #2819343 25-Nov-2021 19:28
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Batman:

 

no outbreak means poor vaccine uptake. chicken and egg story

 

 

Truly? IIRC vaxxes weren't much of a thing back in August. So was the outbreak managed to get vaxxes up?

 

You should meet my mate, he thinks the pandemic was due to Pfizer and other drug companies wanting to make money.


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  #2819405 25-Nov-2021 21:13
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SJB:

 

mattwnz:
NZ agreed to the two way transtasman bubble so NZ took that risk. We ended up paying a pretty high price for it. Not sure if any other cases have leaked through the border from other countries since then. Or if all cases can still be Epidemiologically linked back to that case returning from Oz

 

A very expensive mistake. The bubble should have waited until 90% plus vaxed and there might very well have been no Auckland shutdown.

 

 

The mistake was the government not following through on what they said would happen if there was another outbreak in Australia. They left the door open much longer than they said they would and it was during this time that the infection got out into our community. If the bubble had been operated as they initially said it would, there would have been no problem.





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  #2819407 25-Nov-2021 21:15
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Batman:

 

no outbreak means poor vaccine uptake. chicken and egg story

 

 

Truly? IIRC vaxxes weren't much of a thing back in August. So was the outbreak managed to get vaxxes up?

 

You should meet my mate, he thinks the pandemic was due to Pfizer and other drug companies wanting to make money.

 

 

Of course it was. It's as obvious as the nose on your face to any conspiracy theorist. 😎





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  #2821245 29-Nov-2021 20:58
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tdgeek:

 

Batman:

 

no outbreak means poor vaccine uptake. chicken and egg story

 

 

Truly? IIRC vaxxes weren't much of a thing back in August. So was the outbreak managed to get vaxxes up?

 

You should meet my mate, he thinks the pandemic was due to Pfizer and other drug companies wanting to make money.

 

 

 

 

Like hunger was invented by those pesky farmers wanting to sell us food!!






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  #2821334 30-Nov-2021 08:19
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Geektastic:

 

tdgeek:

 

Truly? IIRC vaxxes weren't much of a thing back in August. So was the outbreak managed to get vaxxes up?

 

You should meet my mate, he thinks the pandemic was due to Pfizer and other drug companies wanting to make money.

 

 

 

 

Like hunger was invented by those pesky farmers wanting to sell us food!!

 

 

I love your logic.

 

To show how far down the rabbit hole some of these nutters are, apparently Pfizer knew "The  South African" variant was coming  back in October and had an update ready to go for their vaccine. Big bad Pfizer is not only clever at making vaccines they're also psychic. What the conspiracists failed to realise or deliberately ignored was the October update was for the South African variant that appeared back in about April. 





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Wrong Question. Our focus is in the wrong place. 

 

How many hospitalisations and can our healthcare system cope? This is what we should be asking.

This is where the money should be being spent, on the healthcare system. Not to be told what we can and cannot do. We need to have a little more faith in the general population. For the most part people do not want to get sick. They will take preventative measures themselves, of course there are going to be the odd muppets who wont wear a mask and not be sensible.

But back to the original point, the number of cases is not relevant, it has not been a useful statistic since we abandoned the elimination strategy. Vaccinated people can get the virus, and can spread the virus and I suspect this will go on for years. The vax prevents severe cases and admissions, so the number of cases is a red herring. 



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