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#2828593 8-Dec-2021 12:31

Vaccination Passes & Travel Certificates First Names / Middle Names

Are they supposed to show all First Names / Middle Names, EXACTLY as on drivers license, passport ?

Or just abbreviated First Name , Surname ?

mycovidrecord web page shows full names, as per drivers license, passport, in top right corner.
Next to button to check you NIH number.

Just simple First Name, Surname in the main details and this is how it prints on certificates.

While your barber may not be asking for photo-id, your pass scans as valid.

Airline travel might be more picky if everything is supposed to be there 'exactly' as photo id.

Anyone know if this needs fixing or how its supposed to be ?

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#2828603 8-Dec-2021 12:53

As long as it has your first, last and dob I don't think anyone's going to get too upset about what your middle name is.

Records in the QR code are based on the dhb records. If you want the display way done differently, need to change your details via the doctor or calling dhb administration.

I don't consider my middle name part of my full name, but it does show that way on some documents like a passport
It is what it is and short of a few people having a laugh when they see it, no one's ever hit me up

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#2828823 8-Dec-2021 15:52

Anyone else been asked to upload/share or email their pass? I got asked by the school if I could email a screenshot. I refused and they just sighted it. Also got an email from University wanting me to upload it.

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#2828832 8-Dec-2021 16:19

pom532:

Anyone else been asked to upload/share or email their pass? I got asked by the school if I could email a screenshot. I refused and they just sighted it. Also got an email from University wanting me to upload it.

Yes. And offered to redact details from it. Which is useless when anyone can scan the QR in the certificate and get it again anyway /facepalm/

They thought of that. And even though we thought it was our personal information, and not for anyone else to store or use. There is a slight out.

17EDuty to provide information of vaccination status
(1)
For the purposes of ensuring compliance with the duties set out in sections 17B and 17C, a PCBU may request an affected worker to provide information (whether in written or electronic form on a device) that verifies the affected worker’s vaccination status (for example, a COVID-19 vaccination certificate, a COVID-19 vaccination exemption, or a COVID-19 vaccination authorisation).
(2)
If a document that is provided under subsection (1) is handed over to a PCBU, the PCBU must immediately return it to the affected worker after—
(a)
inspecting the document; and
(b)
taking any copies or images of the document, or extracts from the document, that may reasonably be required for the purpose of verifying compliance with the duties referred to in subsection (1).
(3)
If the affected worker fails to comply with the requirement in subsection (1), the PCBU may treat the affected worker as being unvaccinated or not otherwise permitted to perform their work.

Ironically some places are refusing to accept screenshots or copied documents. So even using a background as you couldn't work out how to add to the wallet may be rejected. Assuming you are visiting those locations as a worker or person conducting business or undertaking vs say a student.

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#2828838 8-Dec-2021 16:31

pom532:

Anyone else been asked to upload/share or email their pass? I got asked by the school if I could email a screenshot. I refused and they just sighted it. Also got an email from University wanting me to upload it.

Yes, a community group I belong to has asked them to be emailed in.

Justification was that they are volunteers, and this way they have on record all attendees passes before the group events, rather than having to deal with it in real time at the events.

Understand, and was ok emailing mine to them.

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#2828842 8-Dec-2021 16:34

Oblivian: As long as it has your first, last and dob I don't think anyone's going to get too upset about what your middle name is.

Records in the QR code are based on the dhb records. If you want the display way done differently, need to change your details via the doctor or calling dhb administration.

I don't consider my middle name part of my full name, but it does show that way on some documents like a passport
It is what it is and short of a few people having a laugh when they see it, no one's ever hit me up

In my experience the name / surname details are NOT from your NHI record but from the vaccination record.
My NHI is correct and matches my surname , the vaccination records have a spelling mistake and the vaccination record is what is used to generate the QR code so I have a QR code that doesnt match my photo ID or passport. Ive tried 3 times to get this fixed.

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#2828843 8-Dec-2021 16:35

pom532:

Anyone else been asked to upload/share or email their pass? I got asked by the school if I could email a screenshot. I refused and they just sighted it. Also got an email from University wanting me to upload it.

My tennis club and gym asked for that for it to be recorded against my membership (uploaded through a link to gym, emailed to tennis club). It could have been sighted in person next time I was at each place but since they both already have my name and date of birth details from initial signup anyway it was easiest to just send it and have it sorted.

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#2828854 8-Dec-2021 16:54

In my experience the name / surname details are NOT from your NHI record but from the vaccination record.
My NHI is correct and matches my surname , the vaccination records have a spelling mistake and the vaccination record is what is used to generate the QR code so I have a QR code that doesnt match my photo ID or passport. Ive tried 3 times to get this fixed.

That is strange. Previously NHI and vaccine records all had my old surname. Had the NHI updated at the hospital mid-November (as I had surgery done and the admin staff were not happy with the name on my NHI not matching my new passport). Requested my Vaccine Pass a few days later which had the correct name. Checking My Covid Record shows they've updated the vaccine details with my new surname. I assumed the vaccine details simply shows the NHI name (as per a normalised database where details like names are recorded only once) but if what you say is correct that doesn't seem to be the case.

I would have thought they would only record the name once in the NHI electronic database record--which the vaccine database record can then reference. Perhaps they keep the names with each individual vaccine just in case they need to go back and verify details etc in case e.g. the record is incorrectly associated with the wrong NHI. Maybe also in case someone doesn't have an NHI so they can still record the name without the NHI? Quite a strange arrangement but I'm sure they have a reason for it.

Hope you get that sorted though.

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#2828859 8-Dec-2021 17:05

Oblivian:

pom532:

Anyone else been asked to upload/share or email their pass? I got asked by the school if I could email a screenshot. I refused and they just sighted it. Also got an email from University wanting me to upload it.

Yes. And offered to redact details from it. Which is useless when anyone can scan the QR in the certificate and get it again anyway /facepalm/

They thought of that. And even though we thought it was our personal information, and not for anyone else to store or use. There is a slight out.

its been fairly well publicised that while businesses are not allowed to keep copies of CVCs, they can record the fact someone has a CVC and is vaccinated on an existing database, and subsequently they can just use that database as a way of authenticating vaccination Statius.

Gyms have been doing since he system began, and Air NZ is about to jump in big time later this week and will allow airpoints members to certify their status by uploading/scanning their CVCs

It will also likely become the standard way of buying concert tickets to large scale events,

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#2828862 8-Dec-2021 17:21

wellygary:
its been fairly well publicised that while businesses are not allowed to keep copies of CVCs, they can record the fact someone has a CVC and is vaccinated on an existing database, and subsequently they can just use that database as a way of authenticating vaccination Statius.

Gyms have been doing since he system began, and Air NZ is about to jump in big time later this week and will allow airpoints members to certify their status by uploading/scanning their CVCs

It will also likely become the standard way of buying concert tickets to large scale events,

Keeping note of the status of your state is what it was designed for yes, but you are only to do that with explicit content

What he was asking about was a copy of the certificate not the status.Which as a pcbu is allowed but it is not clear in description from the two agencies requesting it

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#2828906 8-Dec-2021 18:41

One disappointing aspect of the vaccine passes is the early mixed messaging and looseness of the compliance requirements for many situations, and the resulting(?) variable implementation / compliance in practice. I am sure others have seen more but from my limited experience over the last two days

Cafe yesterday, I am sure would not have even mentioned vaccine pass if I had not held it up to show them. Certainly no monitoring of entry into the cafe.
Five retail shops. None mentioned nor had signage about vaccine passes (not required to of course)
Reasonably upmarket vineyard restaurant today (special occasion): Asked for and scanned our passes, and checked the result but did not ask for photo ID (excellent outdoor seating though)

At the other end of the scale, one of my cousins in the SI (with 3 primary school age children in tow) was refused entry into her father's memorial service/mass because she did not have a vaccine pass with her (I don't know if she is vaccinated - presumably not?). The memorial service was in lieu of an originally planned funeral service cancelled due to the August L4 lockdown.

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#2828930 8-Dec-2021 19:18

I had an interesting experience today visiting a $2 type store that had the vaccine pass sign up and was scanning passes at the store counter to enter.

Considering they don't sell food so aren't required to be doing this it seemed a lot of effort for a store that has quite a bit of foot traffic!

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#2828931 8-Dec-2021 19:31

Presumably they think they can pack in more following it. That said its optional as we've seen by places like pbtech enabling

Food van that comes around in the am has asked to see everyone's. Bosses order. Even though under the no passed being used, coffee vans are listed as exempt and should run as retail.

And actually now it appears its been edited and added to the with passport section too

Takeaway outlets
Food and beverage services that only offer takeaway, such as coffee carts and food trucks, should follow the rules for retail.

Obviously need to start monitoring changes on the new pages.

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#2829364 9-Dec-2021 12:03

Oblivian:

Yes. And offered to redact details from it. Which is useless when anyone can scan the QR in the certificate and get it again anyway /facepalm/

They thought of that. And even though we thought it was our personal information, and not for anyone else to store or use. There is a slight out.

17EDuty to provide information of vaccination status
(1)
For the purposes of ensuring compliance with the duties set out in sections 17B and 17C, a PCBU may request an affected worker to provide information (whether in written or electronic form on a device) that verifies the affected worker’s vaccination status (for example, a COVID-19 vaccination certificate, a COVID-19 vaccination exemption, or a COVID-19 vaccination authorisation).
(2)
If a document that is provided under subsection (1) is handed over to a PCBU, the PCBU must immediately return it to the affected worker after—
(a)
inspecting the document; and
(b)
taking any copies or images of the document, or extracts from the document, that may reasonably be required for the purpose of verifying compliance with the duties referred to in subsection (1).
(3)
If the affected worker fails to comply with the requirement in subsection (1), the PCBU may treat the affected worker as being unvaccinated or not otherwise permitted to perform their work.

I suspect the purpose of permitting taking copies is if the person in control of the business delegates responsibility to an HR team or something to record that vaccination status has been sighted and verified, like would happen in a large company or a chain store. I assume elsewhere in the regulation is an obligation on them to dispose of it when it is no longer necessary.

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#2829529 9-Dec-2021 15:13

wellygary:

Air NZ is about to jump in big time later this week and will allow airpoints members to certify their status by uploading/scanning their CVCs

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