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#2870530 17-Feb-2022 18:25

When you need to go get a test i highly recommend booking one at a clinic.

I rang this morning and got an appointment for 230ish, drove out to a testing station just to see if we could get one any faster and as of 9am the lines were already hours long.

Went home and did productive things most of the day before going out to the clinic and was there for about 10min.

Nurse said it would likely be up to four days before we get a result.

Now its just thoughts and prayers.

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#2870538 17-Feb-2022 18:35

And the majority probably going to be turned away when they get there

I wonder if security/control are finally being proactive and advising people it is for symptomatic or those with a txt only

Or if they are just screaming 'don't touch our cones' when people cut in like the news other night :)

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#2870618 17-Feb-2022 21:29

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My mate is a lovely guy but he's anti everything so Covid is his latest thing. Moon landing was fake, Bush was 9/11, Id rather trust Facebook user 1234456xyz than the Government and Pfizer.{quote} I dont read the news, I read Facebook. "Oh, not anti Covid but anti mandate."

Ive already distanced him in the recent past. But all good now. So, our employer has decreed that our corporate offices are closed, cool. We dont want a floor or more on sick leave. "No, we dont want sniffles" Yet he has had one jab "its for me" He has myocarditis he suspects, as does his Mum (who is in the UK) Now, the odds are 1 in 10,000. AND thats chiefly on males 18-30, he is 42.

While Im not easily wound up, the pandemic is a serious situation, yes, for the VAST majority of us under Omicron its not a huge deal. But we all have family or friends (or notable GZ posters) who are vulnerable. I also have some vulnerability. But Im about to call time on him. I can easily pick at him but Im not like that. I could easily say , people who think that are ******** basically saying you and your lovey gf are that also, but I wont go there. But I am getting sick of it. I can deal with the usual "points" he makes but this "oh its closed as we may all get sniffles" is stupid. If there was a global flu pandemic, the same situation occurs, most wont get sick and die but healthcare plummets so many will die that should not. He has two teenage boys. The older wont work in MIQ hospo. "no way" (*not sure why if its only sniffles) The younger, "its his choice" yeah right, after your feeding him with BS.

So I need to manage this in some way. Im over the Jehovahs Witnesses, Ive got an answer to every question. TBH Id now be quite happy to tell him to is face, dont mention your fake news around me, if you have a problem, F off.

The easy way is to just cut contact, although we have mutual friends. Four of us are quite close. So somehow I need to draw a line

Not really seeking help, more venting. Maybe I need to tell him dont talk Covid BS with me around, as thats narrow minded, dumb and careless.

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#2870630 17-Feb-2022 21:59

@tdgeek Well at least your friend's not boring :) He has his opinions and probably a lot of fears and anxieties as well. Everyone deals differently with their fears and telling himself and others it’s not so serious could be one of the ways he calms those concerns

You say he’s a lovely guy. I think that says it all. If his opinions bother you, tell him you’d rather not discuss any covid matters so you don’t clash with his ideas and spoil your good friendship. No need to be brash about it. You will feel a lot worse if you cut him out of your life when others in the group are friends and the balance of everything amongst you will change. Is it worth it?

I guess that’s what’s so sad about the whole Covid thing. It’s separated families, friends and workmates. In the past radical ideas or conspiracies were up for discussion and a bit of fun. With Covid it’s either one way or the door.

It’s easier to avoid confrontation and focus on the good points of this person and ignore his stance.

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#2870634 17-Feb-2022 22:08

Eva888: @tdgeek Well at least your friend's not boring :) He has his opinions and probably a lot of fears and anxieties as well. Everyone deals differently with their fears and telling himself and others it’s not so serious could be one of the ways he calms those concerns

You say he’s a lovely guy. I think that says it all. If his opinions bother you, tell him you’d rather not discuss any covid matters so you don’t clash with his ideas and spoil your good friendship. No need to be brash about it. You will feel a lot worse if you cut him out of your life when others in the group are friends and the balance of everything amongst you will change. Is it worth it?

I guess that’s what’s so sad about the whole Covid thing. It’s separated families, friends and workmates. In the past radical ideas or conspiracies were up for discussion and a bit of fun. With Covid it’s either one way or the door.

It’s easier to avoid confrontation and focus on the good points of this person and ignore his stance.

Yep. I guess my conflict is his conspiracy thing. Oppositional. If it was a clear Covid only thing, yes, easy to manage. But its the overall anti/opposition attitude, which makes his Covid stance "his latest craze" hence not genuine. Thats the conundrum.

Appreciate your comments.

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#2870645 17-Feb-2022 22:42

tdgeek:

Seeking comments.

My mate is a lovely guy but he's anti everything so Covid is his latest thing. Moon landing was fake, Bush was 9/11, Id rather trust Facebook user 1234456xyz than the Government and Pfizer.{quote} I dont read the news, I read Facebook. "Oh, not anti Covid but anti mandate."

Ive already distanced him in the recent past. But all good now. So, our employer has decreed that our corporate offices are closed, cool. We dont want a floor or more on sick leave. "No, we dont want sniffles" Yet he has had one jab "its for me" He has myocarditis he suspects, as does his Mum (who is in the UK) Now, the odds are 1 in 10,000. AND thats chiefly on males 18-30, he is 42.

While Im not easily wound up, the pandemic is a serious situation, yes, for the VAST majority of us under Omicron its not a huge deal. But we all have family or friends (or notable GZ posters) who are vulnerable. I also have some vulnerability. But Im about to call time on him. I can easily pick at him but Im not like that. I could easily say , people who think that are ******** basically saying you and your lovey gf are that also, but I wont go there. But I am getting sick of it. I can deal with the usual "points" he makes but this "oh its closed as we may all get sniffles" is stupid. If there was a global flu pandemic, the same situation occurs, most wont get sick and die but healthcare plummets so many will die that should not. He has two teenage boys. The older wont work in MIQ hospo. "no way" (*not sure why if its only sniffles) The younger, "its his choice" yeah right, after your feeding him with BS.

So I need to manage this in some way. Im over the Jehovahs Witnesses, Ive got an answer to every question. TBH Id now be quite happy to tell him to is face, dont mention your fake news around me, if you have a problem, F off.

The easy way is to just cut contact, although we have mutual friends. Four of us are quite close. So somehow I need to draw a line

Not really seeking help, more venting. Maybe I need to tell him dont talk Covid BS with me around, as thats narrow minded, dumb and careless.

I'd just be saying to him lets not discuss this as one of us will end up really pissed off. Make it clear you don't want to hear the little bitchy gibes as well and see what happens. Of course you have to do the same and not make back handed or bitchy comments either - I'm not saying you are but it's easy to do unconsciously.

If you agree to disagree and leave it there's no reason for either of you to have a conflict. If at that point it still doesn't work then you've done what you can.

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#2870646 17-Feb-2022 22:46

I think in situations like this, you are best to have an honest conversation with him. I have wildly differing opinions on many things with my sister, though not on the same topics.

We used to just be at each other it was unpleasant for us, and all the people around us at the time.

One day I just sat her down and said something like this.

"I love and care for you, but it's obvious we have very very different world views, strong convictions tied to those beliefs and aren't likely to change our position on it. We conflict on politics and x and y topics, and so for the sake of our relationship, why don't we agree to disagree, and not discuss those topics around each other. That way we can spend time together without the stress of potential conflict, and we both know where we stand"

She didn't talk to me for about a week and then called to say she had given it some thought and felt it was the right way forward.

It's rare for us to argue now, we have topics off limits and if someone else raises them one of us changes the topic, and away we go.

I have seen you talk about this guy and mention he is a nice guy, and you obviously don't mind him with the exception of these topics, so it's probably worth a go. Not that much to lose if the alternative is total loss.

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#2870979 18-Feb-2022 16:49

Still waiting on my results. I am actually hoping I am positive at this point. Means isolation till Wednesday which would be a real problem for me next week, but given I am feeling pretty much 100% normal now, having it, and recovering from it, means I can pretty much do whatever I want for the next 6-8 weeks.

I do understand the pressure the labs must be under and will continue to be under, but delays on results make contract tracing a farce really, If I got this in hospital, then by the time the results are in, would make it impossible to contain and there were some really terribly sick people in my room with me, and in the ward with me as well. I wore a n95 for all our protection and whilst it wasn't 24/7 it was probably 23/7 and yet I still may have contracted it. Most other patients weren't wearing masks and most doctors were pretty cavalier about it, almost no-one else had N95s.

I probably don't have it, but the mind wanders sometimes :)

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#2871002 18-Feb-2022 17:25

Friend is part of the Covid response team at a large organistion involved in contact tracing. Their comment: "it spreads very fast, however some show no symptoms, so be careful". Just an FYI.

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#2871272 19-Feb-2022 12:06

Well, 1 of our 3 results are back as NEGATIVE.

Not sure how I feel about that. Means we can still get it. Would have preferred this to be Covid and be recovering without serious illness.

I can't get my booster for another 3 weeks due to the drugs I got in the hospital. Slightly anxious watching numbers climb.

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#2871273 19-Feb-2022 12:09

One thing of note.

Press is reporting that 80% of tests are being done by people who are not symptomatic, but all three of our tests show as asymptomatic and we made very clear we were all symptomatic. Nurse marked us as such (I saw her)

It looks like there may be an issue with the process for entering that data in the back end potentially.

I am totally sure lots of people who don't have symptoms are getting tested, but it could be a bit lower than 80.

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#2871274 19-Feb-2022 12:15

Going by the long lines at CHC airport station, the 'I haven't been feeling well last week, and since we have cases now...'

Or the 'its better to be safe than sorry..'

Is still well in effect.
Only way you stop it would be walk the line and get them to prove it or go home. But determined will still make it up.

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#2871275 19-Feb-2022 12:24

Is still well in effect.
Only way you stop it would be walk the line and get them to prove it or go home. But determined will still make it up.

The percentage of people who would lie to get a test are pretty small to be honest.

I think initially testing stations weren't turning anyone away but now they are checking and turning people away.

I can understand if you lined up for ages for a test and then faced the prospect of being turned away you might fudge the truth (not me).

Hopefully, they are screening people as they arrive to save people waiting.

I also think they should have big signs up saying, unless you are symptomatic, go home. The problem is the rules change weekly.

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#2871295 19-Feb-2022 12:40

networkn:

Well, 1 of our 3 results are back as NEGATIVE.

Not sure how I feel about that. Means we can still get it. Would have preferred this to be Covid and be recovering without serious illness.

I can't get my booster for another 3 weeks due to the drugs I got in the hospital. Slightly anxious watching numbers climb.

Im in the same boat, we havnt had any results back yet but im kinda thinking its not bad whatever i have so if its covid it gets it over and done with.

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#2871298 19-Feb-2022 12:49

Daynger:

networkn:

Well, 1 of our 3 results are back as NEGATIVE.

Not sure how I feel about that. Means we can still get it. Would have preferred this to be Covid and be recovering without serious illness.

I can't get my booster for another 3 weeks due to the drugs I got in the hospital. Slightly anxious watching numbers climb.

Im in the same boat, we havnt had any results back yet but im kinda thinking its not bad whatever i have so if its covid it gets it over and done with.

It's not that simple.

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