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MikeAqua
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  #2836828 22-Dec-2021 11:56
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1101:

 

my god, its as if just sighting a smoker will give us cancer

 


I go to your beer garden. I dont like the smell of beer or wiskey. Alcohol is a known carcargen
So you need to take your drinks back into the bar as the sight of them offends me .
I dont want the smell of spilt beer on my shoes either

 

 

Looking - no.  Breathing the same air - maybe, especially if you have regular exposure.

 

Why would you be in a Beer garden in the first place?  It would be like me going to a smoking club (if there is such a thing). Why would I?

 

 





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  #2836860 22-Dec-2021 13:31
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In the State of California everything is labelled as carcinogenic. The original intention was to single out things that were proven high risk now the scheme is so overloaded it probably gets ignored.

Even though you might get told that having given up smoking for decades your risk drops to that of nonsmokers, as soon as there's anything on an xray that looks suspicious all bets are off. I smoked for 4 years and 40 years later was told I had lung cancer. After a very painful operation the biopsy showed that there was no cancer. That was great news but maybe if I'd never smoked the initial diagnosis might have considered benign options.

At the time there were no nicotine substitutes but I was lucky enough to get some 2nd hand non smoke from a friend who'd just done the ISIS program to stop smoking.

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  #2836871 22-Dec-2021 13:57
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Rikkitic:

 

Meat nauseates me. Can't stand the smell. It causes heart disease and cancer. It is bad for the environment. Ban it!

 

 

so do veggies - https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/142427#2. ban them, too?

 

the difference between meat and tobacco is that meat does provide something good (essential) - protein. what good does one get from tobacco?

 

 

 

 

 

 




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  #2836894 22-Dec-2021 14:37
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nitro:

 

the difference between meat and tobacco is that meat does provide something good (essential) - protein. what good does one get from tobacco?

 

 

Comfort. Seriously.

 

Meat is not the only source of protein. If that is its only good, there are plenty of better alternatives. Also, a single study does not prove a thing. It merely suggests that there are grounds for more studies.

 

 





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  #2836962 22-Dec-2021 16:23
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Rikkitic:

 

nitro:

 

the difference between meat and tobacco is that meat does provide something good (essential) - protein. what good does one get from tobacco?

 

 

Comfort. Seriously.

 

Meat is not the only source of protein. If that is its only good, there are plenty of better alternatives. Also, a single study does not prove a thing. It merely suggests that there are grounds for more studies.

 

 

likewise, there are far better avenues for 'comfort'. the issue is that is you're (the smoker, not you personally) robbing the non-smoker nearby of his comfort.

 

there really aren't 'better' alternative protein sources to meat. by this i mean the quality of protein and, to some extent, the amount you have to consume to get the same amount of it.

 

not trying to convince you or anything... respect your choice. and i'll stick to my reasonable balance.

 

 


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