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#2932317 20-Jun-2022 20:25

Not According to the continued videos shown on tv shorts hardly touching the sides and not even making people flinch/sneeze it would seem

I'm not surprised it gives people less faith.

the first tests I had were quite clear, blow nose, slip under the bottom plates and most the way to the notch in the swab like a nasopharyngeal. It's a way different spot/angle.

And gotten quite use to that over time (surveillance) Still makes me sneeze or sniffle after however.

Now If they're going to show people stick it up as if they're picking it. Not sure how they can expect a good sample set.

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#2932344 20-Jun-2022 23:30

chatterbox:
On a personal level I've always swabbed throat and both nostrils. More sample the better I figure. I mean you're testing because you want to know if you have covid.

How far down the throat did you put it? After my gag-inducing PCR I'm reluctant to push it too far down.

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#2932351 21-Jun-2022 01:07

neb:
chatterbox:
On a personal level I've always swabbed throat and both nostrils. More sample the better I figure. I mean you're testing because you want to know if you have covid.

How far down the throat did you put it? After my gag-inducing PCR I'm reluctant to push it too far down.

Ideally the tonsil region on the sides and back of throat. I don’t aim for down the throat it’s just straight towards the back. I think some people are quite sensitive though thanks to the gag reflex. You can’t really push it down your actual throat but depending on your gag you can touch the back of the throat.

Maybe try just the front part of the nose after and a soft twirl towards the outer part rather than towards the middle where you’re more prone to bleeding?

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#2932385 21-Jun-2022 08:55

neb: How far down the throat did you put it? After my gag-inducing PCR I'm reluctant to push it too far down.

I went just past the little boxing speed-bag then a few dabs on each side of the throat (which I assume is the tonsils?). Obviously need to remove it little then re-insert to do the second side as to not hit said speed-bag with the swab.

Also need to be careful to avoid touch your tongue apparently. Definitely need to do it in front of a mirror!

It's also made more difficult (and presumably more dangerous/choking hazard) by the short swabs provided with most kits. For a lot of people it's easier to get someone to do it for you if that's an option.

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#2933100 22-Jun-2022 11:22

Went to Mitre 10 yesterday, 4 checkouts open and none of the operators had a mask. What the hell. Have I missed a new memo?

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#2933102 22-Jun-2022 11:28

Zigg:
Went to Mitre 10 yesterday, 4 checkouts open and none of the operators had a mask. What the hell. Have I missed a new memo?

Driver for the airport bus wasn't wearing a mask either. All the passengers were, but not the driver.

Some people go to ridiculous lengths to avoid wearing masks. Uber requires that drivers take a selfie wearing a mask at the start of the shift, so some drivers will put the mask on, take the selfie, then take it off again and do the shift maskless (that's from an Uber driver who's seen it happen).

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#2933105 22-Jun-2022 11:34

Zigg:

Went to Mitre 10 yesterday, 4 checkouts open and none of the operators had a mask. What the hell. Have I missed a new memo?

Makes perfect sense. Masks don't protect the wearer, they protect those who come near the wearer. So if you are a selfish dick, there is no reason to wear one!

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#2933107 22-Jun-2022 11:38

Many seem to think that Covid is over. It has very low coverage in the press as movie star tantrums, court cases and outfits are more important. Not surprising really the government is bored with it now.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#2933142 22-Jun-2022 13:03

Wearing a mask each and every business day is ... wearing. My partner is still required to wear one in their office, but they are talking about making it optional as 'most people are just over it or have had COVID-19 already'.

WFH has been banned by her organisation for reasons known only to management, but she prefers the buzz and interactions of the office anyway.

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#2933160 22-Jun-2022 14:22

Dynamic:

Wearing a mask each and every business day is ... wearing. My partner is still required to wear one in their office, but they are talking about making it optional as 'most people are just over it or have had COVID-19 already'.

WFH has been banned by her organisation for reasons known only to management, but she prefers the buzz and interactions of the office anyway.

Might be time to move on then to somewhere less caviler about staff safety

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#2933204 22-Jun-2022 15:57

richms:

Might be time to move on then to somewhere less caviler about staff safety

Caviler because they want their employees to come to work?

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#2933215 22-Jun-2022 16:16

Paul1977:

Caviler because they want their employees to come to work?

Weakening protections because staff are over it is pretty crap IMO.

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#2933218 22-Jun-2022 16:23

Rikkitic:

Zigg:

Went to Mitre 10 yesterday, 4 checkouts open and none of the operators had a mask. What the hell. Have I missed a new memo?

Makes perfect sense. Masks don't protect the wearer, they protect those who come near the wearer. So if you are a selfish dick, there is no reason to wear one!

Masks can add some protection to both the wearer and others around the wearer. If you wear one you get some protection from any COVID that may happen to be swirling around you. If you have COVID then a mask may reduce the amount of COVID you are adding to the air around you that others nearby are breathing.

But it depends on the type and fit of the mask. Cloth masks are pretty useless. Ill fitting surgical type masks are definitely useless - gaps or mask under nose. Those two categories would apply toa very significant percentage of mask wearers I see in public.

I also personally know two people who have contracted COVID despite assiduous use of a properly fitted N95 mask.

There seems to be a false sense of security around masks. If you are seriously compromised you can't rely on other people's mask wearing to keep you free of COVID.

At my usual place of work, like most, masks are not mandatory. Few wear them at their desk and about 1 in 10 wear them when in meetings or moving around the office.

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#2933223 22-Jun-2022 16:42

Zigg:
Went to Mitre 10 yesterday, 4 checkouts open and none of the operators had a mask. What the hell. Have I missed a new memo?

About 1 out of every 10 customers in our local supermarket don't wear a mask and it seems to be increasing every time I go in there. The longer masks are kept, the more people won't wear them.

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#2933259 22-Jun-2022 18:02

HelloThere:
Zigg:
Went to Mitre 10 yesterday, 4 checkouts open and none of the operators had a mask. What the hell. Have I missed a new memo?

About 1 out of every 10 customers in our local supermarket don't wear a mask and it seems to be increasing every time I go in there. The longer masks are kept, the more people won't wear them.

How many of the 9 out of 10 mask wearers are wearing cloth masks or I’ll fitting surgical masks? That would probably reduce the number of effective mask wearers.

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