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#2938093 4-Jul-2022 12:17

Rikkitic:

If I were going to have an adverse reaction, I would also have it a day later. It would have nothing to do with letting me in early. Frustrating indeed but my complaint is the system is stupid.

I know, and I said as much, however, IF you had an adverse reaction, then everything is checked very carefully, including the date you were given the dose compared to your specified date. It would have been picked up, and even if it's irrelevant to the outcome, still would have resulted in the staff

being raked over the coals.

There has to be a date for these things. I understand the frustration though.

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#2938258 4-Jul-2022 15:26

Rikkitic:

Oblivian: It's the vaccination record system/IT infrastructure

Not them

It cannot under any circumstances be bypassed to enter a persons details to update unless the counter is up.

Big red square Access denied type box.

And if they did it and took your details to enter the following day would get hauled over coles.

I'm not complaining about the nurses on site. They were embarrassed by the stupidity of it all. It is the way it is set up and the complete lack of flexibility.

how much do you want to pay to developers to design flexibility into it? how much extra time to test and validate?

its so much easier to have a hard cutoff.

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#2938260 4-Jul-2022 15:35

Jase2985:

its so much easier to have a hard cutoff.

On so many different levels. Not even from a software perspective.

The number of people genuinely put out by the inconvenience, vs the chaos of not having hard-set dates, is incomparable.

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#2938275 4-Jul-2022 16:09

This is a nowhere discussion. It would not be hard to build a little common sense into the system. They could start by placing a little trust in the judgement of nurses, who study for years and often have more practical knowledge than doctors do. It also would not set off any volcanoes to just have a doctor on call (literally, by phone), to pass judgement on marginal situations, which this was. It is not difficult to be a little flexible. It is just blinkered bureaucratic lack of imagination, which is probably also the reason the place was empty except for me.

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#2938302 4-Jul-2022 16:32

Rikkitic:

It is just blinkered bureaucratic lack of imagination, which is probably also the reason the place was empty except for me.

I can't understand you saying something like this.

Bottom-line was you made the mistake. To suggest the reason the place was empty is because of something like this which in reality would impact 0.01% of people, going to get a booster, is nonsense.

Every time you offer flexibility, you require resources and management and process, checks and balances. We do not have enough doctors to deal with emergencies right now, let alone to have on-call on someone who gets their date wrong on their booster card. To suggest putting a doctor on call to avoid inconvenience for a tiny tiny percentage of the population is mind-boggling. Ultimately, if you wait an extra few days until you are back in town again, given the isolated life you lead, it won't matter one bit.

I think you are being a tad unreasonable. Sorry.

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#2938304 4-Jul-2022 16:33

Rikkitic:

This is a nowhere discussion. It would not be hard to build a little common sense into the system. They could start by placing a little trust in the judgement of nurses, who study for years and often have more practical knowledge than doctors do. It also would not set off any volcanoes to just have a doctor on call (literally, by phone), to pass judgement on marginal situations, which this was. It is not difficult to be a little flexible. It is just blinkered bureaucratic lack of imagination, which is probably also the reason the place was empty except for me.

as soon as you start doing that things go wrong and in 6 months time there will be a news article about something happening and it has been abused.

i think you fail to grasp many aspects of this and only see if from your point of view. and some of your above comment is a bit disingenuous, they not out to screw people or make it a burden to people getting vaccinations. has to be a line drawn somewhere.

you are just annoyed because the situation affected you and it could have easily been avoided.

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#2938320 4-Jul-2022 17:16

This sounds like one of those Karen posts where someone had an expired voucher, or came in after a sale finished etc. Dates are there for a reason.

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#2938326 4-Jul-2022 17:36

richms:

This sounds like one of those Karen posts where someone had an expired voucher, or came in after a sale finished etc. Dates are there for a reason.

You seem not to understand my point. In any case, people make mistakes. That is no reason to abuse them.

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#2938327 4-Jul-2022 17:42

Jase2985:

as soon as you start doing that things go wrong and in 6 months time there will be a news article about something happening and it has been abused.

i think you fail to grasp many aspects of this and only see if from your point of view. and some of your above comment is a bit disingenuous, they not out to screw people or make it a burden to people getting vaccinations. has to be a line drawn somewhere.

you are just annoyed because the situation affected you and it could have easily been avoided.

You are right. I am annoyed because the situation affected me. But everyone here has jumped on that rather than the substance of my complaint, which was not that I was annoyed (as I hope I made clear, the nurses were lovely), but that I think the way things are set up is unnecessarily inflexible and creates an extra barrier for people who are already reluctant to get vaccinated, which is the other point I was making (no-one there except me).

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#2938334 4-Jul-2022 18:05

we addressed your complaint, and explained it, but it wasn't what you wanted to hear.

you asked for a couple of days, what about a couple of week? couple of months? if it was a week someone would be complaining when they turn up 8 days before and get turned away. have to draw a line somewhere, where do you draw it? they choose to be exactly 6 months.

can i get the 2nd booster? im 49 close enough right? just manually input it?

ps im not 49, its an example.

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#2938335 4-Jul-2022 18:09

Jase2985:

we addressed your complaint, and explained it, but it wasn't what you wanted to hear.

you asked for a couple of days, what about a couple of week? couple of months? if it was a week someone would be complaining when they turn up 8 days before and get turned away. have to draw a line somewhere, where do you draw it? they choose to be exactly 6 months.

can i get the 2nd booster? im 49 close enough right? just manually input it?

ps im not 49, its an example.

Yup.

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No one is attacking you. We are suggesting that despite your inconvenience, it doesn't make sense for such a tiny number of people to be catered for, given the impact vs the number of issues that it would cause.

I don't believe for one second that the rigor in the system is even a marginal reason for people to not get vaccinated.

The bigger a system is, the less flexible it can be.

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#2938341 4-Jul-2022 18:15

I think this discussion has reached a conclusion. Let us go our separate ways.

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#2938404 5-Jul-2022 09:42

Here we go again.

I get home last night my son is sneezing and sounds congested. By 7pm he wasn't great, but just nose. Tested negative by RAT and my wife tested negative by RAT this morning as she has to go into a place that requires a test immediately prior.

Today he was woken and has a sore throat as well. We called in and 4 kids from his class-tested positive overnight, though he has been masked the entire time at school so who knows? He is gutted as he had a birthday weekend planned this weekend which now is unlikely to happen, and it now makes it 3 weekends in a row that Covid has disrupted birthday plans in our family!

He is most upset he won't likely be at school the rest of the week as his teachers (2 of whom are home with family cases of Covid) had planned a fantastic fun last few days of term.

We are short-staffed at work, and now if he tests positive (which seems more than likely) I'll be home for a week.

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#2938425 5-Jul-2022 10:42

We're going through the same thing:

1st kid (9) tested positive on Saturday

Next two kids (12 + 7) on Monday

Mum and Dad on Tuesday (today)

Our 5 year old - the only one not masked at school - last man standing.

To be fair it's not too bad, headache, cotton wool stuffed head, cough and snotty nose but we'll see how it progresses.

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#2938429 5-Jul-2022 10:52

My sympathy to you guys and anyone else in this position. Apparently there is (yet another!) new variant making the rounds that is less affected by vaccination. This isn't going to go away soon.

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