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# 181121 3-Oct-2015 07:37
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Lazer Razors, due March 2016. I'm pretty sure I'll get one at some point. I originally proposed a group buy (which is why the next few posts look strange) but I've been convinced it's a bad idea, too high risk.

Pretty cool product. The only question for me is grab a v1 product or wait until commercial release.

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  # 1399199 3-Oct-2015 07:48
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Bad Bad idea

what happens if the kickstarter does not deliver will you "refund" people

I have backed a number of kickstarters, out of about 20 only 2 have delivered on time, most of them are months late and even have some up to 2 years.
Others the creators have sent emails saying "we tried" but sorry can't do it won't refund (as they don't have too as long as they send something).  Others just go dark with no comms after a few months and kickstarter etc won't do a thing.

Also you will not be able to "charge back" on the credit card as the delivery data is so far off purchase date and NZ banks tend to want the 2 with a month or so of each other.


If you want it, then go for it but don't carry the risk of people coming after you for "refunds" 



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  # 1399200 3-Oct-2015 07:51
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Fair point. Yes of course I would have to refund if it was called off, but if it was extended that'd be tough luck. Maybe best to just get our own though.

 
 
 
 


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  # 1399201 3-Oct-2015 07:53
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Just do it yourself.

Better to be out $150 then $330+

Also if you order 3 you will be hit with import and GST due to being over the limit.

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  # 1399205 3-Oct-2015 08:56
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Looks cool, but wouldn't there be a whole bunch of health or other regulations to comply with?




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  # 1399206 3-Oct-2015 08:58
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Dam, Got all excited for a while.
Thought the Motorola razr was making a comeback



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  # 1399207 3-Oct-2015 09:00
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scuwp: Looks cool, but wouldn't there be a whole bunch of health or other regulations to comply with?


Don't ask don't tell?

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  # 1399213 3-Oct-2015 09:17
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My first thought was no way this is real.

Maybe closer to a tech demo? It looks like a long long way before a product for this one.

 
 
 
 


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  # 1399220 3-Oct-2015 09:26
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timmmay:
scuwp: Looks cool, but wouldn't there be a whole bunch of health or other regulations to comply with?


Don't ask don't tell?


Could apply, but I was thinking more along the lines of your skin falling off or dying of [insert horrible disfiguring disease of choice here] due to products that have not been tested and proven safe for consumer use.   




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no health regulations according to them because its classed as a type 1 medical device.  Ive been watching the videos,  would be nice if it actually works but Im skeptical until I see an actual video of a working one doing its job to a good degree - their sample of the guy shaving his hand doesnt fill me with much confidence it'll ever be a viable product.  

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It's going to stink - literally.  You can't vapourise hair with laser beams without that.


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  # 1399385 3-Oct-2015 15:01
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Very cool...wants one!
Will probably let the masses try it out first tho....





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Cool idea, but why does it need to look like a conventional one, and it doesn't appear it will flex like a bladed types where they fit the face contours. Looks like they have concentrated more on the look, rather than usability. Wonder why they don't have a real demo of their prototype. Also it does say it doesn't smell, as it doesn't burn the hair. So I wonder what it does to the hair.

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  # 1399439 3-Oct-2015 18:48
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I hadn't actually seen that before and my initial thoughts are that it's potentially one of the best inventions in the last few years.. Which in itself poses more questions that it answers.

Such a product (assuming it works) is a total game changer in this world. The current razor industry is a multi billion business where R&D investment isn't in the millions of dollars, it's in the hundreds of millions of dollars. All of this poses the question - is this product really can deliver it's got the potential to be absolutely massive. How can they only be wanting $160,000? Even their $2 million that they've got is pocket change to many VC companies. Why did no VC company grab a stake when the returns would be massive?



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Now they have some buzz that may start to occur.This is closer to POC than a prototype. Did kick starter bend the rules for them? Just asking I dont know what the rules are.

Imho they will need more than 2m to ship the first product so *real* investment will be sought next, and that will not be on kick starter.

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  # 1399496 3-Oct-2015 22:51
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sbiddle: I hadn't actually seen that before and my initial thoughts are that it's potentially one of the best inventions in the last few years.. Which in itself poses more questions that it answers.

Such a product (assuming it works) is a total game changer in this world. The current razor industry is a multi billion business where R&D investment isn't in the millions of dollars, it's in the hundreds of millions of dollars. All of this poses the question - is this product really can deliver it's got the potential to be absolutely massive. How can they only be wanting $160,000? Even their $2 million that they've got is pocket change to many VC companies. Why did no VC company grab a stake when the returns would be massive?




A VC would want to take 30-51% of their business, and while 49-70% of a HUGE market is a lot, if they can do it crowd sourced then they have it made, without having to let anyone have a near free ride.  Perhaps they are just worried Gillette / Schick would just bring out their own within a few months and have the marketing / distribution to own the market as they do today.



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