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# 240812 27-Sep-2018 10:25
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I am born in NZ so have a bit clash with the others.  With someone overseas, I was a bit peeved since they cooked chinese vegetables with chinese bacon (strips of belly pork with the skin and all preserved and sun dried) and it was a bit rancid.  

 

 

 

Often we hear and read about chinese as being very healthy, steamed, rice noodles with a thin broth?  Is this mainly at home?  We did have a shared lunch with many 50-100 people to mark Spring.  Most of the items were meat and potato or turnip as in a curry or a casserole.  Or they were simply just meats by itself.  Or meat inside buns.  Fried noodles.  Desserts were often ice cream and cheesecake and custard tarts.  Those who made anything like a pudding or a apple crumble were virtually left uneaten.  Even at the restaurant it is often meats with vege stirfry or the veges are just boiled and served with oyster sauce or stir fried with garlic.  

 

 

 

Edit.  There are healthier Asian food what others might consider like Vietnamese and Japanese.  


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  # 2097282 27-Sep-2018 10:27
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With most cuisine, there are healthy variants, and there are not.  I guess you pick from the options as you need to


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  # 2097284 27-Sep-2018 10:29
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The local chinese up the road from me is generally really good. Fresh veges and good quality meat. No MSG written on the front door as well haha. Tastes good and isn't salty.

I'd say t is healthier than Mc'ds but not as healthy as a kale smoothie. You don;t know what goes into their food but a sweet and sour isn't going to be healthy but a chow mein will be.. 



 
 
 
 


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  # 2097296 27-Sep-2018 10:41
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They eat what we eat, they just add spices and so on. Meat and vege. The issue is they don't eat the MSG heaven that we can and do


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  # 2097302 27-Sep-2018 10:47
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MSG is not the bugbear some people make it to be. It can be a problem if you have an allergy to it specifically - but reality is MSG (monosoiodium glutamate) is present in pretty much everywhere - tomato, cheese, grapes, mushrooms all have it. That's why these taste so good - it's the umami factor. Most recent studies can't even link MSG to specific symptoms people report. There's even some reports that link the hate of MSG with xenophobia. Also interesting is this story from earlier this year: a MSG convert visits the High church of Umami.

 

As for Chinese food, I have to say the corner store present in lots of suburbs is usually not that great. Many times you see them cooking with old oil, oil used for different types of food, etc. Seriously disgusting stuff - MSG would be the least of their worries...





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  # 2097315 27-Sep-2018 11:06
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New Zealand chinese food is probably as bad if not worse than Maccas/BK/KFC etc. 

 

As for traditional chinese food that they do in China,  probably portion size is more important than actual ingredients. China is a poor country (per capita gdp is 8k USD vs NZ 39k) .

 

So chinese people eat smaller amounts with little waste. ie, they eat less, while we eat too much. And, their food is probably less processed too. 

 

But, chinese will become fatter as more of their people enter the middle class. 

 

I don't know if any of the above is true, just based on common sense and my perhaps faulty knowledge ha ha.

 

 

 

 


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  # 2097397 27-Sep-2018 11:46
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There's a big difference between street food restaurant food and what people traditionally prepare at home in different regions. Yes, there is healthy chinese food.

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  # 2097445 27-Sep-2018 13:04
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Never understood people who eat healthy food.. Almost without exception it's bland and flavourless at best, or outright foul at worst.

 

I'll take food that tastes good and will allegedly kill me every day of the week. Mind you that's why I'm a fat b'stard lol.





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  # 2097522 27-Sep-2018 14:01
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I'm sceptical about traditional Asian food being "good for you".

 

Evidence: When you take an Asian kid, bring them up on a western diet, they are usually bigger than their parents. This says its not their DNA that makes them short, but deficiencies in their diets.


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  # 2097529 27-Sep-2018 14:10
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I know someone that works for MPI and she stopped eating Chinese food after inspecting what arrives into the country from there.


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  # 2097530 27-Sep-2018 14:11
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Lias:

 

Never understood people who eat healthy food.. Almost without exception it's bland and flavourless at best, or outright foul at worst.

 

I'll take food that tastes good and will allegedly kill me every day of the week. Mind you that's why I'm a fat b'stard lol.

 

 

I reckon you're confusing 'healthy food' with 'health food', the latter being food being pushed by pious gits touting the latest diet fad, which can indeed push flavour down the pecking order in terms of important characteristics. But to claim that food that is healthy is 'bland and flavourless' is just bollox. Yep, fat's great at carrying and enhancing flavour, but astute use of seasoning and combinations of ingredients means that basically anything can be made to be tasty. Perhaps it's just more that your own sense of 'tasty' is narrower than that of others?!

 

 


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  # 2097599 27-Sep-2018 15:49
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tripper1000:

 

I'm sceptical about traditional Asian food being "good for you".

 

Evidence: When you take an Asian kid, bring them up on a western diet, they are usually bigger than their parents. This says its not their DNA that makes them short, but deficiencies in their diets.

 

 

 

 

You would have to start by defining what 'traditional asian food' is. You might realise that it varies with time, location, social status, economy, politics etc. This paper looks at height variations all over the world, and essentially proves that your evidence (assuming it's correct) is not enough to explain height variations. Is taller==healthier? What does healthy mean? Strong? longer life? Heard of the Okinawa diet?


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  # 2097687 27-Sep-2018 19:06
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This is a rather silly thread making vast generalisations over an extremely varied culture, particularly with respect to food.  Just like with all other cultures, it depends on what you get within the vast spectrum of 'Chinese food', there are of course some things that are healthier than others, but to ask whether a particular country's food is healthy or not is a rather naive question


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  # 2097714 27-Sep-2018 19:37
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Traditional Chinese food in China is very bland.

Boiled or steamed. Healthy.

Westernized Chinese food is all deep fried or if not deep fried, cooked in a tub of oil. Not so healthy.




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  # 2097721 27-Sep-2018 19:46
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Lettuce is considered healthy, but you wouldn't want that only if stuck on a deserted island for 3 months.

Chinese food beers little resemblance to what my local serves up.


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  # 2097722 27-Sep-2018 19:47
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Tzoi:

 

This is a rather silly thread making vast generalisations over an extremely varied culture, particularly with respect to food.  Just like with all other cultures, it depends on what you get within the vast spectrum of 'Chinese food', there are of course some things that are healthier than others, but to ask whether a particular country's food is healthy or not is a rather naive question

 

 

I think it's fair to say the generalisation is towards the Western-style food served in New Zealand, which is not really representative but that's probably what the OP has access to.





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