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#277095 25-Sep-2020 12:10
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Went out to visit an elderly relation yesterday and found out she has unplugged the majority of the electronics in her house: The TV, Wifi, phone, laptop, radios etc as she believes she is suffering from EHS. She’s in her 70s and has been unwell for most of her life after getting a mosquito bite in Thailand while on holiday in her early 20s and suffers from Chronic fatigue syndrome among myriad other ailments. 


She says that ever since getting a titanium hip replacement last year, electronic devices give her headache, tingling and burning sensations etc


I know that EHS isn’t a recognised condition, and that to me is nether here nor there. But it worries me as she’s currently not wearing her St Johns alarm bracelet which considering she lives alone, isn’t ideal


Shes found someone who is coming out to alter some of the wiring in her house in order to “fix” the issue which to me seems unlikely as a solution and seems more of a scam. However if it has a placebo effect and some how alleviates the problem well that’s at least good. 




just wondering if anyone can offer insight. 


with thanks. 

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  #2574227 25-Sep-2020 13:41
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Shes found someone who is coming out to alter some of the wiring in her house in order to “fix” the issue which to me seems unlikely as a solution and seems more of a scam. However if it has a placebo effect and some how alleviates the problem well that’s at least good. 



It sounds like a scam. And what if the "solution" makes things even harder for her?


Perhaps time to get a good diagnosis? Any chance?



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  #2574242 25-Sep-2020 13:53
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I suspect the person who comes to "alter" the wiring could decide that it might need regular "checking" to ensure it keeps her "safe"....  be very wary of letting them in ....




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  #2574247 25-Sep-2020 14:02
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Many years ago I did read about people hearing radio stations in their head because of fillings in their teeth... That was in the days of extremely high powered radio stations.


May be worth looking here on 'Metal Hypersensitivity Reactions'...


Guessing, but no doubt with all the medications the relative is on it would make diagnosis very difficult...



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  #2574252 25-Sep-2020 14:11
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Keep these people away from her:






They sold an expensive plug-in blue light to an elderly in-law, to fix the EMF in the household. To be fair, it's placebo effect did work.


Maybe buy your relative a similar plug in light system from ali express and see if it 'fixes' her problems?



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  #2574398 25-Sep-2020 16:21
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Reminds me of Chuck, from Better Call Saul. 


Placebo effect might only work if you buy it from recognised 'experts' (I use that term loosely). 


Self sourced devices from aliexpress might not pass the threshold for believing in the magic.



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  #2574399 25-Sep-2020 16:32
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I am not a doctor, EMI researcher, or RF engineer - but I sympathise with your situation.


The following is personal advice, not linked to any past or present employer.


Placebo effect is strong. Get her a shiny sweatband type thing to wear under the bracelet. You know - one of the ones with the EMI blocking micromesh in them. Confidently hand it over and give her careful instructions on how to wash it and that for full effect she needs to wear it at least 50% of the time while she's wearing the bracelet. Tell her it doesn't matter if she misses a night or 2, and it doesn't always need to be between her skin and the bracelet, so long as it's on the correct wrist.


Sometimes the end result is more important than how you get there.


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  #2574409 25-Sep-2020 17:09
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Low dose vitamin pills repackaged with a nicely printed label describing them as a cure for EMI if taken once a day with breakfast. It coats the nerves and forms a protective layer from the rays and gradually builds up over a month to give 10 years of protection. They are sourced from The Pyrenees specially made in the mountains away from harmful rays by a scientist who wants to share the discovery and to check if they work as well in the Southern Hemisphere. Tell her to keep a diary of her progress for the scientist.

Seriously though placebo effect is real and if she believes it anything could work. It would be sad if she is duped to pay out to some scam artist. Maybe you can talk to the fixer person and whisper the words Fair Go and nationwide notoriety in their ears. Difficult for you...good luck.


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  #2574507 25-Sep-2020 22:15
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It's a shame that when someone has gone down the rabbit hole it's so hard to bring them back with logic and facts. A short course of Physics would help someone understand that there's nothing to worry about for those of us who keep our distance from transmitters.


OTOH I was watching something about a radio telescope in Virginia IIRC. Radio silence is mandated in the immediate area and even petrol cars are banned on site. Apparently people suffering from the same 'condition' move to the area for the radio peace and quiet.


I imagine there's some equally quiet places in NZ.


You could reassure your relative that the bracelet only transmits when she presses the button. Or is it smarter than that with some kind of detection function?

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