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cruxis: Back in 2023 there was a wave of fuel thefts from parked cars, with thieves drilling into tanks to drain them. I suspect we’ll start seeing it take off again soon.
Auckland for example made large voluntary water use drops when asked nicely.
We have experience with work from home, much of that infrastructure still exists.
Government could be encouraging prep for work from home.
Support on public transport costs.
If Gull experience is any measure people are looking for savings, it gets attention.
Reminding people of public transport with the old tried and true marketing tactic of a discount.
School drop off needs some thought on support for alternatives.
If you can increase safety margin our 50 day fuel storage buffer lasts for essential industries surely worth it.
If you were that sure this will be a short temporary scare, move along nothing to see here.
You would be putting the Parliamentary pension scheme on a polymarket bet :-)
Maybe a good time to buy a cheap Nissan Leaf just in case we have major fuel issues?
The Iran situation is not going to be resolved quickly. Boots on the ground is the thin end of the wedge for a protracted dispute.
https://www.harmlesssolutions.co.nz/
k1w1k1d:Might pay to move fast on that. Word from an EV importer friend yesterday is that enquiries have ramped up hugely this week in contrast to what was a very depressed market previously.
Maybe a good time to buy a cheap Nissan Leaf just in case we have major fuel issues?
https://www.harmlesssolutions.co.nz/
kingdragonfly: I believe this was already mentioned, around using EV's
Massive AI factory: Region weighing positives against negatives: 1 News
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The facility would use 280MW of power, making it the second-largest electricity user behind Tiwai Point aluminium smelter near Bluff.
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There's a huge difference between the electricity demands of significant EV uptake (especially considering V2G potential) as opposed to AI datacentres.
https://www.harmlesssolutions.co.nz/
kingdragonfly: I believe this was already mentioned, around using EV's
Massive AI factory: Region weighing positives against negatives: 1 News
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The facility would use 280MW of power, making it the second-largest electricity user behind Tiwai Point aluminium smelter near Bluff.
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Can this power not be used throughout the rest of NZ or is too much lost during transmission? I am guessing they are doing this because they are hoping to secure a cheap source of power. but if we then need to build other generation as we electrify our transport, it could end up costing NZ a lot. Also as AI is seen a s massive bubble, I do wonder if this isn't a waste of power and also a waste of resources and whether it will even last.
Top Quote from Southland mayor Rob Scott
"We don’t have an abundance of power down here, so that’s potentially one negative.
Um. A small matter, let's just quickly move along :-)
Looks like we may have to stump up for extra set of transmission lines, probably many other things say assured Government business?
Tiwi point like long term favorable power price contract?
There may be subsidies for land, rates, and other breaks as project of national significance?
Trans-Tazman cable itself, more a national asset?
Where the heck GPUs, DRAM, SSDs, etc that are 'booked up globally for goodness knows how long' will come from?
mattwnz:
Can this power not be used throughout the rest of NZ or is too much lost during transmission?
The grid is configured to deliver Manapouri power to the Tiwai Point smelter.
TransPower have a plan to enable more of Manapouri's power to go north to the rest of NZ, but it requires a IIRC capital spend of ~$600M. Governments have not been keen to authorise that while Tiwai Point is still operating
ezbee:
Top Quote from Southland mayor Rob Scott
"We don’t have an abundance of power down here, so that’s potentially one negative.
Um. A small matter, let's just quickly move along :-)
Looks like we may have to stump up for extra set of transmission lines, probably many other things say assured Government business?
Tiwi point like long term favorable power price contract?
There may be subsidies for land, rates, and other breaks as project of national significance?
Trans-Tazman cable itself, more a national asset?
Where the heck GPUs, DRAM, SSDs, etc that are 'booked up globally for goodness knows how long' will come from?
Part of the resource consent conditions should have been that it came with at least 500MW of renewable power to run itself. Can't use ChatGPT to produce sick memes about how crap NZ rental properties are if the power goes out thanks to an AI slop farm sucking it all up. Likewise I can't believe they agreed to a cooling solution that uses that much water. It's in Invercargill, surely they can just open the doors and let the breeze in?
I also seriously dispute those numbers regarding jobs. Yes, there will be some temporary work in construction. But "hundreds" of long term skilled jobs? No. A handful for Downers or whoever gets the contract to be the physical presence to swap failed hardware but unless the owners of the systems and software are all NZ based then the skilled jobs are all going to be off-shore remote work. To the extent that there are any NZ operations that require huge amounts of AI compute those jobs already exist so it wouldn't be a big net increase that way either.
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Yeah, lots of work for construction but few workers likely needed once operational. It’s a bit like all these solar farms being installed. Also they never consider end of life and do these things become an eyesore at end of life. Or are they required to remove them and if so who pays.
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