I think we are going to need a bigger digger.

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#2684069 30-Mar-2021 14:10

from the BBC News website - the Ever Given limerick:

En route from the Red to the Med
A vessel conspired to embed
Its bow in the mud
With a bloody great thud
So we're off via Cape Town instead

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#2684075 30-Mar-2021 14:35

A ship got stuck go figure
In some muck the rigger
Said we’ll never jig her
We need to get a digger

The rigger got a digger
A teensy weensy digger
We need a bigger digger
Said the digger rigger

I think I can I think I can
the little digger stood
I’m not just a digger
I’m the one that could

That was a trigger for the digger
Acting with some vigour
and a tug and with some luck
it dug the ship out of the muck

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

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#2684110 30-Mar-2021 15:34

Fred99:
My SO's ancestors came from one of the Shetland Islands. The story I've been told is that they'd go to church to pray for shipwrecks so they'd have some timber with which to start fires in winter, all they had for fuel was damp peat from bogs, lit with pages torn from their bibles soaked in oil they got from rendering beached puffin carcases.

... uphill both ways... work twenty nine hours a day down Mill... live in a brown paper bag in a septic tank...

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#2684159 30-Mar-2021 15:50

Fred99:

My SO's ancestors came from one of the Shetland Islands. The story I've been told is that they'd go to church to pray for shipwrecks so they'd have some timber with which to start fires in winter, all they had for fuel was damp peat from bogs, lit with pages torn from their bibles soaked in oil they got from rendering beached puffin carcases.

Indian Jenny found a much better use for her bible.

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#2684181 30-Mar-2021 16:28

i dont know why they dont double canal the whole thing

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#2684220 30-Mar-2021 17:51

They recently finished double-laning (actually 2 separate channels) a 35KM stretch. It cost US$5bn and doubled the two-way navigable section. There's another 120KM that's still single lane. Once a day, a convoy starts from each end and passes in the double-lane section in the middle. The longer double-lane section increased the capacity by allowing longer convoys.

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#2684449 31-Mar-2021 07:34

Aljazeera: Suez crisis creates winners and losers in the global supply chain

... hiccups in global supply chains have historically tended to raise freight rates and shipowners’ profits....

...The Greek ship-owning community, which controls more than a fifth of the world’s ocean-going merchant fleet and more than half of the EU fleet by weight, according to the United Nations, is poised for a potential bonanza in rates.

Time charters, which guarantee the owner a day rate, have the additional advantage of shifting the risk of delays to charterers. The alternative, voyage charters, in which charterers pay for a specific route regardless of its duration, tend to leave the owners exposed.

“I don’t expect many owners to be suffering. Most charters these days are time charters. Simply speaking, If a ship is delayed as a result of the vessel stuck in the Suez, the owner of the delayed vessel still gets paid by the charterer,” .
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#2684467 31-Mar-2021 08:25

neb:
Fred99:

My SO's ancestors came from one of the Shetland Islands. The story I've been told is that they'd go to church to pray for shipwrecks so they'd have some timber with which to start fires in winter, all they had for fuel was damp peat from bogs, lit with pages torn from their bibles soaked in oil they got from rendering beached puffin carcases.

... uphill both ways... work twenty nine hours a day down Mill... live in a brown paper bag in a septic tank...

Luxury!!

......and you try telling the kids of today that ...

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#2684480 31-Mar-2021 08:51

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Luxury!!

......and you try telling the kids of today that ...

At least they had puffin carcasses. Only thing we could afford was a cup of cold poison.

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#2684500 31-Mar-2021 09:28

Watch the video for dramatic reenactment of how the accident happened:

https://twitter.com/ElSangito/status/1376903699881107456

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#2684568 31-Mar-2021 10:00

Japanese cartoon music have not changed one bit since the 90s

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#2684721 31-Mar-2021 12:47

freitasm:

Watch the video for dramatic reenactment of how the accident happened:

And then try the game:

https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2021/03/cnnix-steership/

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#2684740 31-Mar-2021 13:21

Fred99:

And then try the game:

https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2021/03/cnnix-steership/

Surprisingly tricky, and I've failed a few times but getting further each time.

That's how they do it in the real world too isn't it?

Most of the posters in this thread are just like chimpanzees on MDMA, full of feelings of bonhomie, joy, and optimism. Fred99 8/4/21

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#2684761 31-Mar-2021 13:49

And this is what really happened...

Showing his age though, he needs a horse now.

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#2684867 31-Mar-2021 16:23

Fred99: My bet would be they'll hike tolls to pay for adding a second canal ASAP over the entire length, so a small-ish increase in shipping cost, but otherwise business as usual.

It's the first incident like this in 160 years - I don't think they'll be over-reacting like that. They are just a shortcut - not the only option, so they can't charge whatever they want - they have to be cheaper than going the long way.

wellygary: To be honest sheet piling the sides of the Canal and then dredging the bottom a bit more would certainly be helpful, and if they did it fully they might even be able to allow convoys of smaller vessels to travel bi directionally at the same time, which would improve efficiency ( and generate higher income)

The Canal Company had income north of US$ ~5 billon in 2020 so its not short of cash...

If they can handle the current demand, then increasing capacity won't pay off and will be a waste of money.

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