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  #3471259 18-Mar-2026 09:55
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By now most are acutely aware of the situation so it’s everyone’s responsibility to act sensibly and not wait for Government to tell us we need to ration. Even if the war stops, there won’t be a return to normal for some time. Our geographical position at the bottom end of the planet makes us a lot more vulnerable and our first world lives can fast become third world. 

 

We collectively need to pull our weight immediately and cut out unnecessary trips because the worst case scenario will be dire and very unpleasant. 

 

 




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  #3471265 18-Mar-2026 10:09
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alasta:

 

For me WFH is undesirable as my crappy old work laptop is really hard to use when it's not connected to the facilities in the office

 

 

 

 

We're fortunate that our brand new work laptops are equally crappy and hard to use no matter where you are. On the plus side it really does discourage you from doing anything with them that don't absolutely HAVE TO.





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  #3471275 18-Mar-2026 10:32
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Eva888:

 

By now most are acutely aware of the situation so it’s everyone’s responsibility to act sensibly and not wait for Government to tell us we need to ration. Even if the war stops, there won’t be a return to normal for some time. Our geographical position at the bottom end of the planet makes us a lot more vulnerable and our first world lives can fast become third world. 

 

We collectively need to pull our weight immediately and cut out unnecessary trips because the worst case scenario will be dire and very unpleasant. 

 

 

 

 

Reminds me a bit from Jordan Peterson's "12 rules" - Clean your own room first. Before we can sort out the country as a whole, there is a lot we can do at an individual level to minimise fuel use, even in whatever car we drive (Toyota Aqua Hybrid through to Fuel guzzling planet warming Ram TRX) - regular vehicle servicing, tyre pressures, smooth acceleration / braking, combine tasks into a journey rather than multiple journeys, ride sharing etc. Lots of small changes is a lot simpler to accomplish than trying for big changes.

 

 




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  #3471329 18-Mar-2026 11:00
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sen8or:

 

... even in whatever car we drive (Toyota Aqua Hybrid through to Fuel guzzling planet warming Ram TRX).... Lots of small changes is a lot simpler to accomplish than trying for big changes.

 

 

 

 

Buying a new car would be a big change for me...as it would be for most people I'd suggest.





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  #3471331 18-Mar-2026 11:06
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I hope South Korea don't do this and our guvmint is talking to theirs:

 


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  #3471334 18-Mar-2026 11:14
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By grinding down your safety margin with normal consumption until it gets really bad.
It means you have less safety margin if it gets catastrophic.?

 

US mine clearance ships are still in port in Malaysia, so a week to 10 days away and the marines only just passed the Straits of Malacca. 

 

Looks like we are betting on an Iranian Military leader with troops loyal to him rising to challenge almost million man IRGC, and other security forces?

 

Though Iranian Oil has free passage if you pay in Yuan, 13 Supertankers since start of SMO. 

 

Ward Carrol and 'Whats Going on with shipping' 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSHKK-aMmVM

 

 


 
 
 
 

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  #3471336 18-Mar-2026 11:31
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Eva888: ...>We collectively need to pull our weight immediately and cut out unnecessary trips because the worst case scenario will be dire and very unpleasant. 


For those who can work at home, remind your boss.


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  #3471338 18-Mar-2026 11:42
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Eva888:

 

By now most are acutely aware of the situation so it’s everyone’s responsibility to act sensibly and not wait for Government to tell us we need to ration. Even if the war stops, there won’t be a return to normal for some time. Our geographical position at the bottom end of the planet makes us a lot more vulnerable and our first world lives can fast become third world. 

 

We collectively need to pull our weight immediately and cut out unnecessary trips because the worst case scenario will be dire and very unpleasant. 

 

 

That was the same situation and worldview when COVID-19 struck. Asking everyone to act sensibly and ration things will go some way, until it doesn't, and the government of the day started being called out as "tyrannical" by some aligned with conspiracy theories.

 

As an example, "alert levels" are being proposed. COVID-19 deja vu.

 





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  #3471339 18-Mar-2026 11:46
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sen8or:

 

Reminds me a bit from Jordan Peterson's "12 rules" - Clean your own room first. Before we can sort out the country as a whole, there is a lot we can do at an individual level to minimise fuel use, even in whatever car we drive (Toyota Aqua Hybrid through to Fuel guzzling planet warming Ram TRX) - regular vehicle servicing, tyre pressures, smooth acceleration / braking, combine tasks into a journey rather than multiple journeys, ride sharing etc. Lots of small changes is a lot simpler to accomplish than trying for big changes.

 

 

This sounds like a typical libertarian approach, or as they say in America, "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps". 

 

Some of the suggestions seem sensible. Some are clearly not. Expecting an already squeezed population to change cars because it's better for the country, when the options are "no food, no house, but a shinny new car that makes the government look good even though they didn't help" is not feasible to a large segment of the residents.

 

Are we back to the "take your vaccine because it helps everyone?" 

 

If so, the part missing here is the thousands of dollars each family would have to pay for this.





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  #3471341 18-Mar-2026 11:51
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ezbee:

 

Simplest rationing would be to encourage increase in price till demand drops
assuring a longer supply buffer. 
Market forces unleashed. Inflation will bite tho. 

 

 

Transport fuel has one of the least elastic demand curves of any consumer product. Increase the price, and people will continue to buy it while cutting their budget elsewhere. You may shave a few percentage points off demand, but not a significant amount. 


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  #3471342 18-Mar-2026 11:55
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I have a long haul flight to UK leaving in late May, and I can easily see a scenario where Singapore and S Korea are not exporting enough Jet Fuel for NZ by that time if their crude supplies are constricted. Again reminded we are a country with the population of a small Chinese city at the end of long complex global supply chains


 
 
 
 

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  #3471343 18-Mar-2026 11:56
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cddt:

 

ezbee:

 

Simplest rationing would be to encourage increase in price till demand drops
assuring a longer supply buffer. 
Market forces unleashed. Inflation will bite tho. 

 

 

Transport fuel has one of the least elastic demand curves of any consumer product. Increase the price, and people will continue to buy it while cutting their budget elsewhere. You may shave a few percentage points off demand, but not a significant amount. 

 

 

At some point, something needs to be said about a government that thinks investing in gas is sensible, and that removing EV subsidies and avoiding EV charger investments are good things.

 

Almost like they didn't have a vision for the future.





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  #3471344 18-Mar-2026 11:59
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Eva888:

 

By now most are acutely aware of the situation so it’s everyone’s responsibility to act sensibly and not wait for Government to tell us we need to ration. Even if the war stops, there won’t be a return to normal for some time. Our geographical position at the bottom end of the planet makes us a lot more vulnerable and our first world lives can fast become third world. 

 

We collectively need to pull our weight immediately and cut out unnecessary trips because the worst case scenario will be dire and very unpleasant. 

 

 

pesky thorn in the side of this is that a lot of organisations are looking at the government for guidance.

 

for instance, they won't encourage, let alone mandate, staff working from home even if they can. i'm in such a situation. at least 80% of us can work from home with a demonstrated (during covid) similar levels of productivity, but that will only be considered when there is a government directive.


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  #3471345 18-Mar-2026 12:10
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Libertarian view might be to step back and let market sort it out.


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  #3471346 18-Mar-2026 12:10
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Stuff are ramping up the number of scare mongering articles


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