Holden Captiva or Craptiva?

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#1621384 2-Sep-2016 13:17

meesham:
I've known a couple of people who've owned them and they both said they're a pile of junk. John Cadogan reckons they're the worst mainstream vehicle you can buy:

Yep that's the Craptiva in all its glory.

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#1621401 2-Sep-2016 13:26

Fabian: Hey guys, anyone out there with experience/own a holden captiva?

Looking to buy one (V6, petrol, 2012, onwards) but the feeling is really mixed out there. Seems like a lot of bad ones.

Any comments would be appreciated.

We have just been through this exact process, we are moving from a sedan to an SUV. We drove almost everything under the sun SUV wise and the Captiva's just felt awful in comparison. We started looking at the Colorado 7 on the lot as a result and then suddenly realised what had happened.

Ended up going with a Nissan X-Trail. Some of the smaller SUV's (Tuscon / Qashqai etc) were very nice but problematic mainly because i'm 6ft4. If I had more $$ to spend I would be in a Hyundai Santa Fe but they are so painfully expensive its hard to justify. Mazda's felt a lot like Captiva's driving wise but were in general better in our opinion & we have owned Mazda's in the past and haven't had issues with them.

Hope that helps or at least saves you some time.

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#1621403 2-Sep-2016 13:31

Shock:
Fabian: Hey guys, anyone out there with experience/own a holden captiva?

Looking to buy one (V6, petrol, 2012, onwards) but the feeling is really mixed out there. Seems like a lot of bad ones.

Any comments would be appreciated.

We have just been through this exact process, we are moving from a sedan to an SUV. We drove almost everything under the sun SUV wise and the Captiva's just felt awful in comparison. We started looking at the Colorado 7 on the lot as a result and then suddenly realised what had happened.

Ended up going with a Nissan X-Trail. Some of the smaller SUV's (Tuscon / Qashqai etc) were very nice but problematic mainly because i'm 6ft4. If I had more $$ to spend I would be in a Hyundai Santa Fe but they are so painfully expensive its hard to justify. Mazda's felt a lot like Captiva's driving wise but were in general better in our opinion & we have owned Mazda's in the past and haven't had issues with them.

Hope that helps or at least saves you some time.

Thanks for the time to write back. We are looking for a 7 seater and I think if we don't go with the the Captiva we will have to increase our budget. That's saying something as well I suppose, a reason why they are cheaper. Looking at the outlander but the seats in the back are awful.

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#1621406 2-Sep-2016 13:44

If your after 7 seats, have you considered a second hand Volvo XC90

On the Captiva, I haven't driven one, but have heard that the Petrol ones are quite thirsty.

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#1621430 2-Sep-2016 14:26

WyleECoyoteNZ:
If your after 7 seats, have you considered a second hand Volvo XC90

On the Captiva, I haven't driven one, but have heard that the Petrol ones are quite thirsty.

Just had a look. A little bit over my budget. Cheers though.

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#1621448 2-Sep-2016 14:43

If you don't need offroad capability, then Mazda MPV are relatively inexpensive 7/8 seaters, a bit less van-like than some people-movers. I don't think they do anything brilliantly, but are a pretty good compromise.

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#1621452 2-Sep-2016 14:48

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Shock:

Fabian: Hey guys, anyone out there with experience/own a holden captiva?

Looking to buy one (V6, petrol, 2012, onwards) but the feeling is really mixed out there. Seems like a lot of bad ones.

Any comments would be appreciated.

We have just been through this exact process, we are moving from a sedan to an SUV. We drove almost everything under the sun SUV wise and the Captiva's just felt awful in comparison. We started looking at the Colorado 7 on the lot as a result and then suddenly realised what had happened.

Ended up going with a Nissan X-Trail. Some of the smaller SUV's (Tuscon / Qashqai etc) were very nice but problematic mainly because i'm 6ft4. If I had more $$ to spend I would be in a Hyundai Santa Fe but they are so painfully expensive its hard to justify. Mazda's felt a lot like Captiva's driving wise but were in general better in our opinion & we have owned Mazda's in the past and haven't had issues with them.

Hope that helps or at least saves you some time.

Thanks for the time to write back. We are looking for a 7 seater and I think if we don't go with the the Captiva we will have to increase our budget. That's saying something as well I suppose, a reason why they are cheaper. Looking at the outlander but the seats in the back are awful.

Have another look at the X-Trails then, they have a 7 seat model. Nissan here in Hamilton have a stack of 2016 X-Trails that are ex-rental, they've been leased out for about 3 months are now for sale for about the $30K mark.

We ended up with a 5 yr old Hyundai iX-35 as the 7 seats wasn't a deal breaker for us. We are so far very happy with it.

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#1621458 2-Sep-2016 15:05

Fabian:

Thanks for the time to write back. We are looking for a 7 seater and I think if we don't go with the the Captiva we will have to increase our budget. That's saying something as well I suppose, a reason why they are cheaper. Looking at the outlander but the seats in the back are awful.

I assume you were looking at an older Outlander? The current model back row seats are, imo, pretty good. They're comfortable for me, which says something. The previous model with it's cardboard kiddieseats were rubbish.

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#1621463 2-Sep-2016 15:17

You could always buy a Ford Edsel ...

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#1621576 2-Sep-2016 18:23

MikeAqua:
Horrible things to drive - all the small holdens I have rented seem to be. And why are their designers obsessed with having two grills on every vehicle?

one might fall off, pretty sure these are rebadged. Daewoo's

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#1621663 2-Sep-2016 21:19

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MikeAqua:
Horrible things to drive - all the small holdens I have rented seem to be. And why are their designers obsessed with having two grills on every vehicle?
one might fall off, pretty sure these are rebadged. Daewoo's

Yep. We recently went through the purchase of a seven seater and had a Craptiva on the shortlist. Warned off them by my mechanic and a bit of research revealed they are basically a Daewoo. Ended up with a near new X-Trail and loving it. If you are looking for a true 7 seater you would need to get into a full size SUV or a people mover like an MPV. The back seats in most mid size SUV's are for kids or short trips only. Leg room is pretty tight.

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#1621907 3-Sep-2016 13:36

Fabian:
Thanks for the time to write back. We are looking for a 7 seater and I think if we don't go with the the Captiva we will have to increase our budget. That's saying something as well I suppose, a reason why they are cheaper. Looking at the outlander but the seats in the back are awful.

In my opinion it's a false economy to go for something cheaper when there's a good chance it's going to cause lots of problems later (or in the Craptiva's case early on). I'd be looking for a second hand late model Sorento or Santa Fe, the diesels in those are awesome and they're well put together, and in the Kia's case they might still be under new car warranty. The petrols are also good but are a bit thirsty.

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#1622056 3-Sep-2016 17:07

Yes it can sometimes be false economy. The issue I see with going for cheap brands including some of these Chinese ones, is that they can use older technology in them. Sometimes the design is purchased from another car manufacturer, and it can be up to several generations old. That is why some look very similar to other brands older models. Some even use asbestos for some of the parts, such in brakes. So even though we have these laws for building materials with asbestos, they don't seem to apply with car parts, unless things have changed recently. They also can lack some of the safety features in more premium brands. I think it is better to go with a second hand Mazda or Toyota, than a new car for some brands, even though some of these other brands can sometimes have a really good warranty length. In Oz they are giving some brands 7 years warranty!

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#1622094 3-Sep-2016 19:19

I too am looking at this range and was mildly considering the Captiva, but after the posts I have seen this has surely turned me off them, looking at the Santa Fe, not a big fan of the Sorrento shape. Also considering territory diesels, anyone got any opinions about those? I do tow a caravan a few times a year so the territory Seems to be good at that.
But some say the diesel territory is slow off the mark and has and older generation diesel which uses more diesel but would that mean it is under less stress and therefore would last longer/do more Ks?

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#1622098 3-Sep-2016 19:25

Drove a 2013 LX V6 today, dealer was pushy and a pain, was out of our budget and just wasn't sure if i was going to get a lemon or not.

Drove around the corner and the wife bought a 2015 toyota yaris, ha ha. Going to hold on and do some more research and/or get our budget to increase before buying a large wagon. Kids are still young so no rush.

Thanks for the remarks. I wouldn't discount the captiva, well the ones after 2012. What i've noticed when looking for them is how much the plastic around the outside fades and it's not all together at the same time. Have a look closely at the pics on trademe.

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