How upset should I be with the tyre workshop here?

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#2335235 10-Oct-2019 21:15

WOF relates to safety issues so they are related. Sidewall damage of course has a higher risk of blowout at a certain point, hence the guidelines of what sort of damage is acceptable in the WOF manual. The tyre people should follow the same guidelines. The chance of actually having a blowout with borderline sidewall damage...extremely low (over 20 years crash investigation experience) . Fully agree they should have just replaced it straight away.

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#2335236 10-Oct-2019 21:16

Urgh... why waste your time doing anything.

Take the modern approach, name and shame for rubbish work. Leave it at that.

Edit: and to add... we already know land transport are incapable of policing their testing and licensing contractors. What chance is there that anything at all would happen if you tried and take it further. You simply just waste your own time and energy.

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#2335362 11-Oct-2019 08:52

chevrolux: Urgh... why waste your time doing anything.

Take the modern approach, name and shame for rubbish work. Leave it at that.

Well naming and shaming is "doing something" no?

I just wanted to have more information before going off half-cocked on a topic that I don't know very much about!

That said - I think I am comfortable calling them out now at the very least:

Tony's Tyres New Lynn - I am not impressed...

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#2335375 11-Oct-2019 09:20

Some tyres have a so called rim saver moulded into the sidewall. Unless you have low profile tyres this extra layer of rubber helps stop the rim grinding on the edge of the gutter. Minor scuffing of this layer doesn't leave the sidewall any worse off than a tyre without it. Any damage that reaches or exposes the cords is quite different.

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#2335379 11-Oct-2019 09:24

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That is the other thing. These are low profile higher pressure tyres, so presumably the danger is even higher?

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#2335386 11-Oct-2019 09:36

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That is the other thing. These are low profile higher pressure tyres, so presumably the danger is even higher?

It is usually mitigated by having more rigid reinforced sidewalls on lower profile tires. But as in your case, if it goes deep enough the tyre is a write-off

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#2335390 11-Oct-2019 09:45

IMO the OP's photo of the damage looks like it would be passable as the innner steel or sidewall cords are not exposed (as far as i can tell by the photos)

The other poster's image of their sidewall damage was clearly a fail.

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#2335391 11-Oct-2019 09:47

dimsim:
IMO the OP's photo of the damage looks like it would be passable as the innner steel or sidewall cords are not exposed (as far as i can tell by the photos)

The other poster's image of their sidewall damage was clearly a fail.

I think you have the photos and their owners the wrong way around!

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#2335398 11-Oct-2019 10:02

dimsim:

IMO the OP's photo of the damage looks like it would be passable as the innner steel or sidewall cords are not exposed (as far as i can tell by the photos)

The other poster's image of their sidewall damage was clearly a fail.

That's @K8Toledo you are thinking of, that damage is superficial.

Although that tyre does look like it is getting pretty thin along the outer shoulder of the tread, but its hard to be sure from the photos.

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#2335407 11-Oct-2019 10:16

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New Lynn - I am not impressed...

I've not had any good experiences when it comes to cars/workshops in the New Lynn area....... dunno what it is but I seem to hit a dodgy one each time I have been out that way for cars/repairs.

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#2335413 11-Oct-2019 10:28

So far I trust Cooper's - they have been very good when I have used them and I would have used them this time but they couldn't get close to the price that Tony's did for the specific tyres I wanted.. .

I guess I got what a paid for!

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#2335483 11-Oct-2019 11:32

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dimsim:

IMO the OP's photo of the damage looks like it would be passable as the innner steel or sidewall cords are not exposed (as far as i can tell by the photos)

The other poster's image of their sidewall damage was clearly a fail.

I think you have the photos and their owners the wrong way around!

Sorry yes Absolutely...my bad.. In this case your tyre shop has fobbed you off in the worst way.. and put you at risk.

The tyre is clearly damaged beyond was would be accepted for WOF standard and should have been replaced if your damage warranty covered that type of event.

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#2335513 11-Oct-2019 12:56

ShinyChrome:

dimsim:

IMO the OP's photo of the damage looks like it would be passable as the innner steel or sidewall cords are not exposed (as far as i can tell by the photos)

The other poster's image of their sidewall damage was clearly a fail.

That's @K8Toledo you are thinking of, that damage is superficial.

Although that tyre does look like it is getting pretty thin along the outer shoulder of the tread, but its hard to be sure from the photos.

Yep good spotting... shoulder wear is mostly due to the 3rd world roads we have up here in Northland, also they've done 45,000K ..

I have another pair of PS4's waiting to go on...if only I could find that elusive lock nut.... lol

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#2335514 11-Oct-2019 12:59

Item: So far I trust Cooper's - they have been very good when I have used them and I would have used them this time but they couldn't get close to the price that Tony's did for the specific tyres I wanted.. .

I guess I got what a paid for!

If you're not far from Rosebank Rd I can highly recommend Tyre Warehouse.

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#2335534 11-Oct-2019 13:44

K8Toledo:

Yep good spotting... shoulder wear is mostly due to the 3rd world roads we have up here in Northland, also they've done 45,000K ..

I have another pair of PS4's waiting to go on...if only I could find that elusive lock nut.... lol

Old habits something something... Sounds about right, Manawatu is about the same. 45k is a good turn though.

PS4s are the sh!t; I was tossing up between those and the Primacy's, ended up going for the latter since it had a slightly harder compound because aforementioned crappy roads. 30k later and they are only about half-worn.

Lock nut? Don't you mean the hissing blue spanner of doom?

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