Car windscreen pillar (A-pillar) blind spot accident

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#2625403 22-Dec-2020 11:18

Another factor in the car blind spot issue is spectacle frames and side arms.... even though my glasses have thin wire frames there is an appreciable shadow in the direction of the A-pillar....

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#2625431 22-Dec-2020 12:13

Blind spot or not, still the drivers responsibility to check the way is clear. It's a mitigating factor, not an excuse.

Ute clearly at fault as was reversing. Bugger this happened at this time of the year also.

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#2625441 22-Dec-2020 12:30

Jase2985: >im not blaming the OP at all they were hit by a reversing vehicle and the blame is 100% on the other driver, but there are some things that could have been done to minimize or prevent this from even happening.

Have you driven something with a significant A pillar blind spot? Once you are used to it you learn to compensate but new drivers are often caught out. Typically a vehicle in the blindspot will be moving at just the right speed to stay in the blindspot unless you are moving your head to anticipate this happening. Usually this happens as you enter a roundabout and the 1st time a car that you hadn't seen appears right in front of you is a lesson you don't forget. (10 years driving a Suzuki SX4 without hitting anything :))

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#2625459 22-Dec-2020 13:16

Mr E had identical accident but he was the one backing out. Insurance deemed fault 50/50 to both drivers.
Just bad luck and made worse because of the time of year. No one hurt is the best and most important outcome.

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#2625724 23-Dec-2020 09:38

Eva888: Mr E had identical accident but he was the one backing out. Insurance deemed fault 50/50 to both drivers.
Just bad luck and made worse because of the time of year. No one hurt is the best and most important outcome.

Wait - what???? If both cars were backing out, then sure. Otherwise, no way.

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#2625730 23-Dec-2020 09:53

@Fred99 No, husband was backing out, other car was driving past. 50/50 fault insurance said.

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#2625751 23-Dec-2020 10:10

Eva888: @Fred99 No, husband was backing out, other car was driving past. 50/50 fault insurance said.

There's absolutely no way that's reasonable unless there was evidence that the other driver wasn't taking care / paying attention etc.

IANAL, but IIRC a general rule applied is that the last person capable of avoiding an accident is responsible. IOW if someone fails to give way and you could have braked safely but you don't use the brakes and run into them, then it's your fault - despite the other driver breaking driving laws.

Possibly the same insurance company double-dipping - getting an excess payment from both drivers.

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#2625755 23-Dec-2020 10:21

Fred99:

Possibly the same insurance company double-dipping - getting an excess payment from both drivers.

I'd say that's the case here...

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#2625767 23-Dec-2020 10:42

How can an A Pillar be used as an excuse . Its just BS for not looking properly

If a car has a blind spot then its up to the driver to take extra precautions
look in the mirrors, out the back window , move your head perhaps

I bet he just didnt look properly .
Ive had the same thing , ute reversed out of car park & hit me .

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#2625838 23-Dec-2020 11:25

Sorry. gotta ask, why is it 100% the reversing drivers fault ?

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#2625977 23-Dec-2020 17:37

rb99:

Sorry. gotta ask, why is it 100% the reversing drivers fault ?

AFAIK, in NZ it's not. Overseas it is (IIRC in Aus) - if you're reversing you've never got right of way. I'm not sure if they brought that law in after some high profile cases of people running over and accidentally killing their own and other people's kids in their driveways. There is now never an excuse.

OTOH the situation described by the OP that someone reversing out of park and hits a passing car, I'm gobsmacked that anybody would consider it reasonable that the driver going past was 50% to blame. Unless there's something much more to the incident than as described.

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#2626170 24-Dec-2020 07:45

Just wondering. It seems (almost) everyone says reversing out, 100% their fault. Just seems there's a difference between reversing out with a bit of speed after a quick glance round vs looking properly, going slowly while trying to spot traffic approaching through the blacked out windows of the pointlessly big ute thing you had to park next too. And in this case there seems to have been someone reversing, who maybe with a blind spot, didn't spot the other car tracking along in the blind spot, and hitting someone who said they had a blind spot, with the other car reversing along in said blind spot.

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#2626185 24-Dec-2020 08:38

When you are backing out of an angle park cautiously at slow speed in a slow zone parking area and a car speeds fast towards you and clips you possibly because that driver momentarily took eyes off road to talk with his passenger or glance at a message...if I was a judge the speeding car would have been slapped with the blame. In any case no one is perfect, there are blind spots, there are distractions when driving. I like to think an outcome is excellent when both drivers come out of it safe.

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#2626190 24-Dec-2020 08:49

Wow she interesting opinions here! Traditionally reversing party is always considered at fault in cases like this, and also the most important factor, the OP was driving an unfamiliar car in a test drive scenario, I consider myself a great driver but I also know how never wracking it can be driving a brand new unfamiliar car especially in a car park leading up to Xmas, it's mental enough navigating a familiar car through Auckland's Xmas madness atm 😂😂😂

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#2626195 24-Dec-2020 08:55

TBH I'm beginning to wonder if accidents even exist any more, someones got to be blamed. I have yet to meet someone infallible (even when looking in the mirror...). I believe the phrase is, just occasionally, 'sh!t happens'

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