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blackjack17
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  #2760393 16-Aug-2021 09:08
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  #2760396 16-Aug-2021 09:18
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blackjack17:

What about roof racks?



You've got to lift the bike quite high to get it on along with the risk of dropping the bike against the body work. Then there's the those who have and those yet to drive into the garage (choose any low overhang) with the bikes still attached.




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  #2760397 16-Aug-2021 09:22
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Plus they use a lot more petrol. Supposedly noisy too, but never tried one.




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  #2760415 16-Aug-2021 10:07
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AlDrag:

 

Also the cloth on the frame holder to avoid scratching? This is exactly the reason I want a better rack like the Yakima Hold Up. I mean sure, you could be arguing I am just being fussy, but if I had a Hitch, then I could get a better rack for basically the same price as these other platform ones.

 

Yeah that's my partner's bike. I wasn't taken any chances with the paint on hers. The clamps have quite soft rubber. I take my bike with me for work so it's seen 10,000kms on the rack. I should take a photo of where it grabs my bike. But then I'm not as worried about rub marks now, sure when it was new.

 

The issue I see with the Hold up rack is that with an allen key and small bolt cutters you'll only be left with the front wheel on the rack. That said, the rack I have comes in either a hitch or tow ball option. I got the tow ball option as I had the Camry when I bought it, then ironically the Corolla came with a two inch hitch. I wouldn't necessarily get the same rack again as mine is a three bike rack, but there's no way you'd get three decent bikes on it. Maybe two adult and one kids hardtail.

 

The issue I see for you is probably more around the car, it's going to be much easier to get a traditional tow bar on a Jazz/Fit so I'd probably be letting that dictate the choice of rack. I'm not a huge fan of roof racks, mainly as I've hardly used them and I'm paranoid about driving into things, even the tow bar mounted rack is worth about 1L/100km in drag. But I do like barely having to lift them on, and it tilts out of the way of the hatch. 

 

Depends on the bike I guess but if it's a mountainbike it will get scratched, but you can always put frame protection on as well. 


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  #2760423 16-Aug-2021 10:22
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I ain't too worried about scratching the bike as I've definitely scratched my carbon bike up in a few places. Although I would like to avoid unnecessary scratches if possible.

Your concern with the hold up rack is theft? I can understand that, although all racks are going to have that problem. I would never leave it somewhere out of sight anyway. I do admit, our current setup with putting our bikes in the boot of our old Honda Fit is really nice for the fact that it doesn't affect fuel consumption and it's nicely locked in the car. Just a bloody pain. Maybe I should just get a Wagon and make it less of a pain but still secure!

Yea the platform racks are so convenient. Will easy for my wife to use as well if she wants to ride with some friends without me helping her load the bike.

So all the custom towbar fitters Rupuhus linked replied with no EXCEPT Akcer Bilt.
They are quoting $782.00inc GST to have one installed. Not too bad, more expensive than a towball, but at least it's more versatile.

Will have to think about it now. Certainly cheaper than getting another car.


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  #3000564 23-Nov-2022 21:59
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Forgot to update this.

So I managed to a get 2 inch hitch receiver installed by Acker Bilt on my Honda Fit! And they did a great job! Only negative is the welding seam was on the bottom-inside of the hitch, which was interfering with my bike rack a bit. Just needed to file it down and it's fine now.

This rack with the hitch has been amazing for a year now!

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #3000673 23-Nov-2022 23:40
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From the look of the towball you never use that. On our car the end of the receiver is flush with the bumper cut out and has a plastic end cap. The towball lives in the boot out of reach of your shins.

 
 
 

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  #3000681 24-Nov-2022 07:27
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Bung: From the look of the towball you never use that. On our car the end of the receiver is flush with the bumper cut out and has a plastic end cap. The towball lives in the boot out of reach of your shins.


Yea correct. I just didn't have a photo with the towball insert removed.

Yea ours isn't flush with the bumper, but it's better at this length, because my bikes can clear the car when I use the Yakima bike racks fold down feature so I can still access the boot.

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  #3000703 24-Nov-2022 09:17
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Nice work. Tow bars are extremely useful. Sure you might not tow a boat with the car but you can use a trailer to move a couch or something. 

 

The install looks really neat. I don't think I mentioned but when Toyota put the hitch on, they made a fairly agricultural cut in the bumper to fit it. Your one is much neater. Plus the tow ball extension on mine rocks, so I had them glue it in. 


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  #3000707 24-Nov-2022 09:24
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mudguard:

 

Nice work. Tow bars are extremely useful. Sure you might not tow a boat with the car but you can use a trailer to move a couch or something. 

 

The install looks really neat. I don't think I mentioned but when Toyota put the hitch on, they made a fairly agricultural cut in the bumper to fit it. Your one is much neater. Plus the tow ball extension on mine rocks, so I had them glue it in. 

 



Thanks! Exactly! Many uses for light loads.

Mine has this one screw at the bottom left of it that you can tighten to keep the insert tight in there. Although I don't use it for my rack, because it's metal on metal and will probably ruin my rack over time, plus my rack has its own wobble prevention system from Yakima.

Getting Acker Bilt to install it was risky because they didn't give me any details on how they'd do it and how it would look...but luckily it was a clean install.


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  #3000755 24-Nov-2022 10:24
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Bung:
AlDrag: But yea I assume shipping it here and getting it certified would be really expensive.


Certication of towbars is only an issue for Passenger Service Vehicles subject to a COF.

Googling shows that you have been chasing this for some time 😀. If you can't get a removable hitch it is possible to get an adapter that bolts on in place of a tow ball.

 

That's a cunning idea, and any engineering workshop ought to be able to job one up, although a towbar workshop would have the right stock sitting around.

 

 


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