Rolls-Royce Spectre EV

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#2984657 19-Oct-2022 12:56

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The Kerb weight of this car (2975 kg), does highlight a potential issue for future Rolls Royce electric models. Once you add in say 500kg of payload you are pritty much maxing out the 3500kg light vehicle GVM weight limit in NZ.

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On a Class 1 (Car) license you can drive vehicles with a GVM or GLW (Gros laden weight) up to 6000kg.

11-driver-licence-classes.pdf (nzta.govt.nz)

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#2984659 19-Oct-2022 13:02

Watched a some of the YouTube videos on it this morning from Autotrader, Carfection and Top Gear.

One number that was impressive for such a Big car, was the Drag coefficient of only 0.25cd.

For perspective, that is the same as a Honda Insight

All of the batteries in the floor do help with the noise isolation though.

There was also a video a couple of months ago with some YouTubers riding in the development mule. They had to engineer some noise into the car as it had been made too quiet and was making the engineers sick in the early days of development

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#2984665 19-Oct-2022 13:26

Good Lord Lazarus has risen again in car form.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#2984675 19-Oct-2022 13:48

djtOtago:

Scott3:

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The Kerb weight of this car (2975 kg), does highlight a potential issue for future Rolls Royce electric models. Once you add in say 500kg of payload you are pritty much maxing out the 3500kg light vehicle GVM weight limit in NZ.

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On a Class 1 (Car) license you can drive vehicles with a GVM or GLW (Gros laden weight) up to 6000kg.

11-driver-licence-classes.pdf (nzta.govt.nz)

That is correct.

Anything above 3500kg in NZ is a heavy vehicle, and kick in the appropriate rules. Stuff like:

6 monthly COF (stricter and more frequent than a light vehicle WOF)
90km/h max speed limit
When the Heavy EV RUC exemption expires (currently set to 31 Dec 2025), it will need a hubometer.

The 90km/h speed limit alone pretty much kills the viability of a luxury / performance car over 3500kg. People aren't paying $400k for a car with a 4.4s 0-100km/h time if it means that Toyota aqua's will be passing them like they are a truck on the Tauranga eastern link.

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#2984786 19-Oct-2022 15:41

I just spent five minutes looking at the side profile.

Beautiful.

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#2984788 19-Oct-2022 15:50

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How many first born children did they require :)

Err say what? How many do you have?

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#2984790 19-Oct-2022 15:57

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wellygary:

How many first born children did they require :)

Err say what? How many do you have?

The reviews I watched said price is between Cullinan and Phantom.

All of the reviews suggested the car as shown would be around GBP 375,000

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#2984826 19-Oct-2022 18:20

Complete with suicide doors.

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#2984879 19-Oct-2022 20:52

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God it's awful.

Yep, further evidence that money don’t buy taste…

It'll sell like hot cakes here

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#2985910 21-Oct-2022 16:54

For those worried about the weight of these vehicles, I would suggest that NZ regulations were not a prime consideration of the designers. Most of the reviews I have seen feature a LHD car and it apparently already has more than 300 orders in the USA. I expect the other big market will be the Middle East, where obscene displays of wealth are the norm.

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#2985928 21-Oct-2022 18:05

Since someone always has to say this about every new EV, no good to me because it can't tow my boat from Auckland to Wellington without recharging

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#2985968 21-Oct-2022 21:12

MikeAqua:

Scott3:

The Kerb weight of this car (2975 kg)

Crikey! That's more than my LWB Pajero, which I think of as a heavy, light-vehicle.

It's not just heavier. it is heap's heavier (for comparison a 2018 Pajero 4x4 diesel is about 2325kg unladen).

Not unexpected of course.

It's massive. 5453mm long, 2080mm wide (vs 4900mm x 1845mm for the pajero)
It's a luxury car, meaning it will be packed full of sound deadening
It's packed full of heavy stuff. (23" rim's, AWD, four wheel steering, thousands of LED's in the roof liner etc)
It's a pure EV. If the battery is 110kW at 150Wh/kg, that work's out to be 733kg of battery alone.

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#2985973 21-Oct-2022 21:38

I'm impressed with the standard inclusion of four-wheel steering. Means the car gets a 12.7m turning radius. (for comparison a 4x4 Hilux is 12.6m, hate to think what the rolls would be without the rear wheels turning).

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#2985986 22-Oct-2022 03:32

Scott3:
I'm impressed with the standard inclusion of four-wheel steering. Means the car gets a 12.7m turning radius. (for comparison a 4x4 Hilux is 12.6m, hate to think what the rolls would be without the rear wheels turning).

I doubt that the turning circle would bother an owner. They're not going to drive it - the chauffuer will.

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#2985991 22-Oct-2022 07:15

So the battery weighs more that (I think) an entire Caterham. Impressive. I know, slightly different markets and I can't afford either.

Several decades ago we had a VW Passat saloon that weighed just over a tonne (1.0 something...), so thats progress right there...

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