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  #3119079 22-Aug-2023 20:25
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/132791605/petrol-car-no-thanks-a-hybrid-is-the-way-to-go

 

Some pretty good fuel economy with the Toyota hybrid described in here.




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  #3119211 23-Aug-2023 06:17
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quickymart:

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/132791605/petrol-car-no-thanks-a-hybrid-is-the-way-to-go

 

Some pretty good fuel economy with the Toyota hybrid described in here.

 

 

Did I miss something, did they not actually quote the fuel use for the new car?

 

Edit. They said they did Westport to Blenheim return, that's 520kms on 24 litres. Or 4.61L/100KM. I had to do some maths. 

 

Better than their old car, and about 1L better than my petrol Corolla. 


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  #3119239 23-Aug-2023 08:39
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The new Honda ZR-V is getting some really good reviews. I am tempted to test drive one, but I would be leaning more towards the Mazda CX-30 with the e-Skyactiv-X powertrain. 

 

Under the WLTP cycle the ZR-V Sport gets 5.5l/100km, versus the CX-30 Takami at 6.7l/100km, but there's not much difference in efficiency when you consider that the latter is AWD.




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  #3119551 23-Aug-2023 21:49
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Those numbers at least look realistic which makes me think they could be a bit higher. I'd like to know what they get in actual average kiwi driving

My Toyota hybrid consistently does it's rated consumption seemingly no matter what I do with it. The on board meter has always matched the receipts.

On the other hand both those cars offer significantly more performance.


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  #3201015 28-Feb-2024 19:35
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Thread bump, my partner is looking at getting a hybrid of her own, but I see road user charges are coming in for electrics - I presume this means things like a Nissan Leaf.

 

However what about hybrids? Does a "plug in hybrid" plug into the mains overnight to charge, like a Leaf does?

 

Or is a "hybrid" (they seem to be different things on Trademe) a car that runs off petrol only and never gets plugged into the mains?

 

I understand about a Leaf connecting to the mains but am a bit confused by the term "plug in hybrid". Obviously she would be keen to avoid the incoming road user charges after forking out for a car.

 

She is looking at a Nissan Sai (one of these: https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/toyota/sai/listing/4546420464 ). I had a look but couldn't see anywhere it could connect to the mains...or am I confused and missing something here? Google doesn't help explain much.


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  #3201029 28-Feb-2024 19:59
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Plug in hybrids are also subject to RUCs as well.

It’s rough, especially if it’s an older PHEV where you switch to petrol fairly quickly.

Non plug in hybrids are not subject to this.

 
 
 

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  #3201059 28-Feb-2024 21:03
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quickymart:

She is looking at a Nissan Sai (one of these: https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/toyota/sai/listing/4546420464 ). I had a look but couldn't see anywhere it could connect to the mains...or am I confused and missing something here? Google doesn't help explain much.



The Sai is a standard hybrid, not a PHEV, so you’re right in that you’ll not find anywhere to plug the car into charge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Sai?wprov=sfti1

As such, this (and other standard hybrids) won’t be subject to RUCs; it’s only diesels, BEVs and PHEVs that are/will be (until they sort the @#$#@ system out properly…).

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  #3201066 28-Feb-2024 21:46
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Thanks, she'll be happy to hear this 🙂

 

Another possible one she's looking at is a Nissan eNote (I may have mentioned this previously) - I've had a look at one of these myself and ditto, no plug in thing either, so I would presume the Road User Charges wouldn't apply to one of these as well? (example below)

 

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/nissan/note/listing/4584450927

 

 


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  #3201128 28-Feb-2024 22:25
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Yep, the Note e-Power is a hybrid and doesn’t require plugging in. It is somewhat different, though, in the way it works compared to say a Prius, which can have the electric motor and/or the engine turning the wheels - with this type of setup the motor’s role is to charge the battery, and so only the electric motor drives the wheels. Someone with more experience in this space can no doubt point you to some good resources on this, or comment on the relative merits of this type of system.

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  #3201141 28-Feb-2024 22:57
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I can point you in the right direction, I have a 2017 Nissan note e power, nearly 100,000ks on the clock I have had mine coming up to 3 years and have to say it's an absolute brilliant car, hardly cost me much at all to run and maintain. Yes it's a little cheap and places but that e-power tech is brilliant. I get about 850 to 900kms on a single 34l tank of 91 so cheap on fuel. My fuel economy is around 3.5l/100kms. It has the same tech as a leaf. Drives like a leaf too but it's much quicker. There is engine noise at times for the engine to charge the battery but that's it. There are lots of videos on YouTube chatting about the e-power tech. I think it's Hybrid Diagnostics Solutions from memory. Jose talks and explains all about the e-power tech the best. I'm actually in the process of jumping from my note to a Leaf this year. I've always wanted an EV so the note is a good go between. No plug in at all just the engine acts as generator no driving the wheels at all hence it drives like a leaf. Also there is a Note e-power aus/NZ Facebook group are brilliant source and I'm a admin member on there so we have all chipped in to advise people.

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  #3201161 28-Feb-2024 23:16
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chunkybeats: Drives like a leaf too but it's much quicker.

I'm not going to argue but do come back and confirm when you pick up your Leaf ; )

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