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#293225 7-Jan-2022 14:51
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I'm looking at maybe getting a hybrid in the future. I know about the Toyota Prius, but are there any other ones available in the market today? Trademe searches are useless, they don't even have a hybrid option.

 

Are there any others besides the Toyota? Do Mazda do them? Nissan? Volkswagen?


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  #2844847 7-Jan-2022 15:05
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every car seller has a few




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  #2844859 7-Jan-2022 15:18
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Really depends on your budget & new or 2nd hand.

Prius by far most popular. I've seen online that Honda NZ recently released Jazz hybrid and Mazda have MX30 hybrid.

I'm sure there are other brands out there too. Might have to do some more research ie googling

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  #2844860 7-Jan-2022 15:20
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You can specify Hybrid in the "Fuel type" when you refine a TM Search 

 

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/cars/search?odometer_min=100&fuel_type=hybrid

 

 




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  #2844862 7-Jan-2022 15:25
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I know Toyota has a range of hybrids now, including the Corolla, Camry, Aqua and more. The Hyundai Ioniq is another hybrid.

 

I think second hand though, maybe the Prius is still the easiest to get in terms of number available, but I could be wrong. My own 2011 Prius just went over the 200,000km mark the other day (bought it used from Japan with a bit under 100,000km on it) and I've still never done anything to do it beyond service, new tyres and wiper blades. So I would certainly recommend :)


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  #2844873 7-Jan-2022 15:51
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Depends how much you're spending. Other than Toyota, manufacturers only started doing hybrid around 2015. Form factor is another issue. Sedan is easy. Stationwagon choice is very limited. SUV has variety.

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  #2844878 7-Jan-2022 16:10
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I would be second hand - and are they like traditional cars, ie, the lower kms travelled the better? Or does it not matter with a hybrid?

 

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  #2844883 7-Jan-2022 16:21
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I would check the technology behind the way the hybrid system is applied. Some are only mild hybrids while others still use a mechanical CVT. (i.e. belts). Having driven a Toyota hybrid (Camry) for the last 6 years I like the eCVT that is the “Hybrid Synergy Drive” for its smoothness and reliability. Other manufacturers that use the same technology are Lexus and Ford (in the Escape).





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  #2844885 7-Jan-2022 16:24
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Check: details of government subsidy availability
They promised to give "rebate" for hybrids this year. Has to be first registered this year, second hand from Japan or new.
I am developer for Japanese to English conversion solutions, anticipating huge inflow of hybrids this year have already finalized conversion solutions for the following hybrids:
(+ means few years up)

Toyota Prius 2009-2015
Toyota Aqua 2012-2021
Toyota Sienta Hybrid 2016+
Toyota Axio/Fielder Hybrid 2014+
Toyota Crown Hybrid AWS210 2014+
Toyota Vitz Hybrid 2014+
Toyota Harrier Hybrid 2014+

Honda Fit Hybrid GP5/GP6 2014+
Honda Grace Hybrid 2014+
Honda Vezel Hybrid RU3 2014+

Mazda Axela Hybrid 2014+ (uses Toyota Prius Drivetrain & Battery)

Ioniq UK 2017+ (can change miles to kms)

P.S. The beauty about Toyota/Lexus hybrids is: standard form factor NP2 battery cells are used accross the brand, making replacement/repair easy as. Batteries are always available new from Toyota, plus thousands of Toyota hybrids in NZ makes the process to find battery an easy task (from wreck).

As for your question: as with any battery - it is number of cycles which degrades them.




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  #2844901 7-Jan-2022 17:19
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With my hybrid experience I am currently pondering whether to go slightly more electrified with a PHEV. Unfortunately many of them have mechanical CVTs (outlander, ioniq and niro prime examples). So the OP may want to consider those as well.





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  #2844956 7-Jan-2022 17:27
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gzt: Depends how much you're spending. Other than Toyota, manufacturers only started doing hybrid around 2015. Form factor is another issue. Sedan is easy. Stationwagon choice is very limited. SUV has variety.

 

Very few sedans in hybrid, most are hatches. If you need a sedan and hybrid you are generally going to be looking at a more luxury thing than a cheapie Toyota unfortunately.

 

Used market is full of hatches because that's whats most popular in Japan because of their vehicle size taxation thing.

 

 





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  #2844958 7-Jan-2022 17:33
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As mentioned above, a number of brands do do hybrids, but other than Toyota (which produces a hybrid for most models including the RAV4, Camry, Corolla, Yarris... https://www.toyota.co.nz/our-range/the-toyota-difference/hybrid/) most only do so for some of their models. It may help if you also posted about the type/size/age/budget of car you were looking at getting so people can target their advice.

 

Small s/h car? Then there's Nissan with its Note e-power, which uses an electric motor, charged by a small ICE (https://www.nissan.co.nz/about-nissan/e-power.html). A big contemporary SUV? How about a Kia Sorento (https://kia.co.nz/vehicles/sorento/)? Subaru does an XV with a hybrid power train; surprisingly inefficient compared to a Toyota hybrid, but an option if you like Subaru/want 4WD (my sister just bought one and loves it) (https://www.subaru.co.nz/showroom/xv-petrol-hybrid/subaru-xv-e-boxer-hybrid).

 

I had planned on making my next car a hybrid - probably a Camry or Rav4 - if not a plug-in hybrid, but have since gone off the idea, deciding that if I'm spending a decent amount and plan to keep it for a while then a full EV is a better option...


 
 
 

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  #2844963 7-Jan-2022 17:40
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richms:

gzt: Depends how much you're spending. Other than Toyota, manufacturers only started doing hybrid around 2015. Form factor is another issue. Sedan is easy. Stationwagon choice is very limited. SUV has variety.


Very few sedans in hybrid, most are hatches. If you need a sedan and hybrid you are generally going to be looking at a more luxury thing than a cheapie Toyota unfortunately.


Used market is full of hatches because that's whats most popular in Japan because of their vehicle size taxation thing.


 



Mazda 3/ Axela comes as a hybrid using Toyota hybrid gear. Only ever came as a sedan.

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  #2844984 7-Jan-2022 18:41
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With so many conversions I've done lately, forgot to mention another one I recently finished
Toyota Aurus Hybrid 2014+

A lot of those I've done have Front Camera/Radar Safety System to avoid collision, to assist when departing from the lane (LDA), some have parking sonar system, some have smart start/stop system (stop idling when not nessesarily), hill start assist system and more other smarts.

Suggest avoid those with mechanical key engine start (e.g. cheap low grade Aqua).
Choose those with push button start.




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  #2844987 7-Jan-2022 18:45
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Dingbatt:

With my hybrid experience I am currently pondering whether to go slightly more electrified with a PHEV. Unfortunately many of them have mechanical CVTs (outlander, ioniq and niro prime examples). So the OP may want to consider those as well.


Forgot to mention ZVW-35 PHEV I can convert to English too.
If you wish to go PHEV consider Toyota Prime (52-series) - 55 actual km range on full charge and 1000km on one tank of gas.




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  #2844988 7-Jan-2022 18:50
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There are also different types o f hybrid including plugin ones. The new toyota rav 4 plugin hybrid, which I don't think is going to be sold in NZ, they do a plugin hybrid which you can sole use as an EV if you do short distances. 


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