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#2983651 17-Oct-2022 11:34

Yep, absolutely understand the limitations of what it’s reporting, but given our charging regime with LFP is quite different (charging at least once a week to 100%; much of the rest of the week at 70% or higher) I also imagine we won’t see quite the same swings in reported range.

I’ve seen a few posts on FB of MY owners getting quite het up about the MY failing to deliver anything like the range they expected. In some of these cases it seems to not affect them in real terms - ie, they’re not needing their expected range to get somewhere (and there are no chargers on the way), so in practice it’s a matter of needing to charge a bit more than they thought they’d need to. There’s quite a mind shift required switching between an ICE and EV, and I think many of these issues originate from bringing across those ICE expectations.

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#2983654 17-Oct-2022 11:52

Yeah some people really fixate on that distance value. I personally think it's better looking at the amount of time it can drive in one go and comparing that to how often you normally stop. The RWD Y has enough range for around 4 hours of driving - most people are going to be stopping for a break of some kind before then so while you take your break, the car can be charging.

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#2983655 17-Oct-2022 12:12

Obraik:

Yeah some people really fixate on that distance value. I personally think it's better looking at the amount of time it can drive in one go and comparing that to how often you normally stop. The RWD Y has enough range for around 4 hours of driving - most people are going to be stopping for a break of some kind before then so while you take your break, the car can be charging.

That's the best way to adjust to battery range and also EV newbies tend towards thinking they need to schedule their travels around totally charging from near empty every time. We've just returned from a weekend away to Auckland from New Plymouth. We only charge to max (90%) if we are planning on needing that much to reach the next public charging (or home) otherwise we just grab whatever gain we can in the time it takes for a meal, coffee or toilet stop. The 380km range of our Polestar gives us plenty of flexibility in planning charging options too.

Got talking with a friends FIL during our weekend away who is planning towards an EV ute and his reservations were mostly easily corrected. The exception was that he lives in Melbourne and typically travels ~600km in a day and Aussie has a less developed public charging than here with multiple providers in the space. Sounded like the situation of multiple non-compatible chargers that exists in the UK where the only solution is going with multiple apps and memberships. We're fortunate in NZ in that ChargeNet pretty much has the country covered under one system.

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#2983672 17-Oct-2022 12:52

Speaking of charging - we had our first overnight trip with the MY in the weekend, so needed to charge at our destination. No Supercharger there; only a 50kW Chargenet, which was in use when I arrived to charge and another car waiting - this is when I discovered these can only charge one car at a time. (A valuable lesson, as we could have charged earlier when we had lunch - it was two minutes away from the cafe!)

Anyway, when I went back to charge early next morning, I’d only driven a few km from the hotel; it therefore took a while to ramp up to max (47, I think) - given the inability of Teslas to be told to precondition the battery for non-Supercharger chargers, I understand the next best option is to select a Supercharger as your destination.

Are there any gotchas and tips for this (apart from the annoyance of losing navigation!)? Like, if the nearest Supercharger is a few hours away, will it even bother start to precondition? Is there a set time out the car will start the process, or is it determined by other variables such as ambient temp etc? I’d like to know the best way to manage this so as towaste less time and money, as we’ll be needing to use mostly Chargenet on a forthcoming longish SI trip. I get that it’s not going to make a huge difference for the 50kW chargers, but stil…

(Here’s hoping Tesla add the ability to select other brands of chargers - much more important in countries like NZ where there is such a reliance on them, than in the US with its massive network. I’m not holding my breath!)

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#2983934 17-Oct-2022 16:45

They have third party chargers in the maps in other countries. So hopefully it will arrive here sooner or later as well.

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#2983937 17-Oct-2022 16:54

jarledb: They have third party chargers in the maps in other countries. So hopefully it will arrive here sooner or later as well.

Plugshare map shows most publicly available EV chargers. A bit light on details but handy resource to explore further from.

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#2983944 17-Oct-2022 17:10

HarmLessSolutions:

jarledb: They have third party chargers in the maps in other countries. So hopefully it will arrive here sooner or later as well.
Plugshare map shows most publicly available EV chargers. A bit light on details but handy resource to explore further from.

I think the point they are making is the ability to have a Tesla precondition the battery prior to arriving at a fast charger, like they do with Superchargers. This is not available for any other charger in NZ at the moment. Even it it had a function where you could say “I’m x km from a fast charger” so the car can precondition prior to arrival, would be good.

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#2983975 17-Oct-2022 19:02

Dingbatt:

I think the point they are making is the ability to have a Tesla precondition the battery prior to arriving at a fast charger, like they do with Superchargers. This is not available for any other charger in NZ at the moment. Even it it had a function where you could say “I’m x km from a fast charger” so the car can precondition prior to arrival, would be good.

Lots of great apps for chargers. Like A Better Route Planner, and I have Plugshare as well. But being able to navigate through the map in the car and having Tesla AND third party chargers would make life so much easier, and the car would be able to route through those third party chargers as well. Today it is only the Tesla Superchargers and destination chargers that are available.

And as you mention, having third party chargers be available for preconditioning would be the cherry on top.

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#2983993 17-Oct-2022 20:14

HarmLessSolutions:

jarledb: They have third party chargers in the maps in other countries. So hopefully it will arrive here sooner or later as well.
Plugshare map shows most publicly available EV chargers. A bit light on details but handy resource to explore further from.

Yep, the other responses have covered the issues specific to Teslas and using other chargers

It's great to hear they do include non-Tesla chargers in other markets: @jarledb - does this also provide for preconditioning on the way to or just routing to non-Tesla chargers?

But, yep, I do use Plugshare and find it really handy; there aren't many Superchargers in NZ so even Tesla owners are reliant on Chargenet in particular when travelling. ABRP is particularly handy for planning trips, but haven't worked out how to share to the car longer routes with multiple charging stops, or whether it has to be done step by step.

Still interested in knowing what limitations there are, though, in trying to fool a Tesla to precondition by 'navigating' to a Supercharger.

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#2984336 18-Oct-2022 21:47

Had to check with Tesla owners in Norway if navigating to a third party charger preconditions the battery, and from what I have heard now from several Norwegian Tesla owners, it does.

But not all third party fast chargers are shown in the maps there.

But some would definitely be better than none.

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#3020078 11-Jan-2023 14:44

did Tesla just drop the price on the Y?

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#3020083 11-Jan-2023 14:50

Batman:

did Tesla just drop the price on the Y?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/130923373/tesla-slashes-prices-of-its-most-popular-models-in-nz

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#3020088 11-Jan-2023 14:53

Batman:

did Tesla just drop the price on the Y?

Not well received in China https://www.ft.com/content/dc1093f3-fbcb-41a6-bc6b-efd21bb303e3

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#3020184 11-Jan-2023 16:58

HarmLessSolutions:

Batman:

did Tesla just drop the price on the Y?

Not well received in China https://www.ft.com/content/dc1093f3-fbcb-41a6-bc6b-efd21bb303e3

Only a $300 drop for the Standard Model Y here so not really a big deal - I've already saved more than that on fuel by buying when I did :-)

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#3020209 11-Jan-2023 17:58

Just for giggles I went to the order page when I got the email from Tesla about the price drop. What I noticed most was the premium for red has dropped (for both the 3 and Y) from $3300 to $2800 since I put my order in (for a TM3) this time last year. Still pushes the red Y above the arbitrary $80000 unfortunately.

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