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#1881810 11-Oct-2017 10:39

Many moons ago I was stopped in the street by a woman who had locked her keys in her Ford Escort. She'd seen me park down the street in my own MarkII Sport, a cracking first car BTW !

She asked if I could help and was shocked when I opened the door with my own key.

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#1881894 11-Oct-2017 12:03

martyyn:Many moons ago I was stopped in the street by a woman who had locked her keys in her Ford Escort. She'd seen me park down the street in my own MarkII Sport, a cracking first car BTW !

She asked if I could help and was shocked when I opened the door with my own key.

Similar story:

My MkII Escort 2 door got stolen and recovered - no forced locks etc but mags, stereo, tools and clothing all gone.

Cops caught the thief a few months later and got me in to ID some of the recovered mags, stereo gear etc in the thief's impounded MkII Escort. My key opened his boot, revealing a lot more of my property - cop's were surprised and asked me to leave the boot open as they hadn't been able to open it until then.

I installed central locking & keyless entry and disconnected my door locks after that experience.

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#1881951 11-Oct-2017 13:35

We used to hang our keys just inside the door, for the last few years we keep one set for each vehicle in the safe and one set elsewhere, not near a door.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1881953 11-Oct-2017 13:38

Bung: All my early cars had the ignition key number beside the switch keyhole. Not difficult to spot from outside.

In Wellington Jamison's on Wakefield St had a complete selection of keys already cut as the same key would have been used on a number of different cars. I think the story went that Ford Cortinas only used 6 key numbers. There were reports of people jumping into the wrong one and driving off using their set of keys. That was before a few years wear and tear meant that a screwdriver worked as well as the key.

In our youth my brother had a Mrk 3 Cortina and I had a Hillman Hunter ( I know don't judge) but when ever he lost his keys or locked in the Cortina my Hunter keys would open the doors.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1881975 11-Oct-2017 15:00

kryptonjohn:

There's been a few terrible crashes lately after police chases, and one common factor seems to be stolen cars.

Which made me wonder... given that most cars have come with transponder keys and immobilisers for decades now, how come so many cars are still being stolen? Can the immobiliser be simply defeated by these teenage car thieves?

They were not police chases, rather, fleeing drivers.

And, I guess you specifically refer to the case of young Mr. Morocco, who nearly killed a bunch of innocents last week before losing his life doing the same this week.

It was quite fortunate though, as morocco was likely going to kill someone else other than himself if he had not met his demise.

The only things I have concern about, is the victim who had her car stolen, and the parents of this boy and why they raised a kid like this. If the world were just, we could put his parents under a microscope too.

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#1882020 11-Oct-2017 16:52

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Geektastic: What is a " Cray cray "? some type of fish?

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#1882050 11-Oct-2017 19:34

Geektastic:
My car is always locked when I'm not in it- and indeed always locked when I am in it.

One of my favourite features in my new(ish) car - auto locking/unlocking of the doors when you start driving! I had a road rage incident where the other driver came over and tried to open my door. Fortunately, the unmarked Holden behind me had a couple of cops in it, so it ended well.

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#1882095 11-Oct-2017 21:46

MikeAqua:

We were burgled earlier this year. Thieves stole the transponder key for one of of the cars (which was in the garage). But they never took the car.

I think the were emptying drawers into bags without looking. They also stole some remote controls without taking the components they controlled.

We have a key cabinet now and have gone full cray cray on security systems. However, my paintball sentry gun was vetoed.

I have a couple of silent infra-red HD video cameras that detect motion - day or night. The system sends alerts to my phone. The videos are uploaded to the cloud.

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#1882866 13-Oct-2017 10:50

kryptonjohn:

Which made me wonder... given that most cars have come with transponder keys and immobilisers for decades now, how come so many cars are still being stolen? Can the immobiliser be simply defeated by these teenage car thieves?

The average age of the car fleet in NZ is approximately 14 years. So there are a lot of old cars. I have a 2006 and it doesn't have an immobiliser or alarm.

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#1882880 13-Oct-2017 11:19

Talking about the "good old days" when there was no crime (yea, right), the closest I saw this was a few years ago when we hired a yacht in Hamilton Is, Queensland. Nobody locked anything there and we left the yacht with hatch open and cameras etc on the table below. Must admit it was weird but also good.

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#1883144 13-Oct-2017 21:01

linw:

Talking about the "good old days" when there was no crime (yea, right), the closest I saw this was a few years ago when we hired a yacht in Hamilton Is, Queensland. Nobody locked anything there and we left the yacht with hatch open and cameras etc on the table below. Must admit it was weird but also good.

Ah, the benefits of living in an exclusively affluent enclave.

When I lived in Switzerland, it was similar. For example, it was normal when getting on a train to dump any suitcases in the vestibule near the door, rather than drag them into the seating area. Completely inconceivable to us Kiwis, until we'd been there 3 or 4 months. It made life much easier being in a largely honest country. Also in Switzerland, a Kiwi friend lost her wallet 3 times. 3 times she got it back from the Police, twice with all the money & cards still in it.

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#1883151 13-Oct-2017 21:27

I'd love 5 bucks for every time I've thought I'd locked my 740 and found out I hadn't. It's still here though. I live in a reasonable area.

I locked my keys in my LH Torana in the late 80's and asked the first guy coming out of the shops for his keys.

"But I've got a Ford" he said.

I replied with "If you had a spoon, I'd borrow that!"

He opened my door.

Funny that I left the keys in the ignition, because you only had to turn the barrel with the "ears" to start it anyway. *shrugs*

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#1883222 14-Oct-2017 00:57

Modern cars with "push button" (wireless key) and immobilizer can be stolen. Technology works as a "man in the middle" using dual transponders by intercepting signal without the need to "borrow" you key. If your car is super expensive and you are paranoid - watch for a person with a brief case closely following you entering supermarket etc.

Car security systems nowadays are installed into the cars with complete dash dismantle to prevent from the fast access and those systems are integrated into CAN. Programmed from Laptop. I guess not a big market here in NZ. People I know overseas are installing those security systems regularly into Prius and Honda hybrids.

When you buy the car it is a good idea to use dealership type scanner to check how many keys are programmed with your car. e.g. if there are 3 and you only get one or two - it worth erasing those you don't have.

With wireless garage door openers - when you are renting or buying house I would suggest to re-record keys you have been given into the system - that way you can be sure if there are spare ones somewhere - they will be deactivated.

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#1883300 14-Oct-2017 11:47

RUKI:

Modern cars with "push button" (wireless key) and immobilizer can be stolen. Technology works as a "man in the middle" using dual transponders by intercepting signal without the need to "borrow" you key. If your car is super expensive and you are paranoid - watch for a person with a brief case closely following you entering supermarket etc.

I would have thought they would all use a rolling code system to prevent this sort of thing?

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