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#223638 10-Oct-2017 12:08
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There's been a few terrible crashes lately after police chases, and one common factor seems to be stolen cars.

 

Which made me wonder... given that most cars have come with transponder keys and immobilisers for decades now, how come so many cars are still being stolen? Can the immobiliser be simply defeated by these teenage car thieves?

 

 


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  #1880285 10-Oct-2017 12:09
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Aaaaahhhh the thief gets hold of the car keys and then steals the car

 

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  #1880287 10-Oct-2017 12:13
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Just get a Chinese alarm thing, and connect the horn relay to a speaker that plays miley cyrus on full volume, with no way for them to stop it without ripping the dash apart.





 
 
 
 


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  #1880293 10-Oct-2017 12:19
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Most cars being stolen are probably older models, and those cars with "5 star alarms" are usually easily bypassed

 

The star rating system was a complete joke, I say was because it no longer exists but that doesn't stop the likes of AVS claiming their alarms are 5 star rated.. https://vehiclesecurity.co.nz/securityrating.php

 

Anyway, I digress

 

But newer cars with keyless entry and push button start are also susceptible of being stolen, if someone accidentally leaves their purse/wallet with the keyless card in their car.. I know someone that did that and they quickly popped into the bakery to grab something, but left their bag with the keyless entry card in the car.. next minute stolen. Was a 2016 Hyundai something.


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  #1880313 10-Oct-2017 12:36
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nas:

 

Most cars being stolen are probably older models, and those cars with "5 star alarms" are usually easily bypassed

 

The star rating system was a complete joke, I say was because it no longer exists but that doesn't stop the likes of AVS claiming their alarms are 5 star rated.. https://vehiclesecurity.co.nz/securityrating.php

 

Anyway, I digress

 

But newer cars with keyless entry and push button start are also susceptible of being stolen, if someone accidentally leaves their purse/wallet with the keyless card in their car.. I know someone that did that and they quickly popped into the bakery to grab something, but left their bag with the keyless entry card in the car.. next minute stolen. Was a 2016 Hyundai something.

 

 

Our cars go berserk if we get out of the drivers door and leave the keys inside the car.


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  #1880314 10-Oct-2017 12:37
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How old am I? I actually lived in a time when it was quite normal to leave your keys in the ignition while popping into a shop. Really lazy people would even leave the motor running.

 

 

 

 





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  #1880315 10-Oct-2017 12:39
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Recently we got home from some sort of family trip. Everyone gets out and into the house we go. Or so I thought. Junior was still in the third row looking at his iPad. Next thing I hear the car alarm go off. Look outside ... nothing looks out of order so re-lock the car with the remote. Then a minute later off goes the alarm again. Anyone seen Ben? Oh, he's locked in the car!

 

 


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  #1880316 10-Oct-2017 12:39
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Rikkitic:

 

How old am I? I actually lived in a time when it was quite normal to leave your keys in the ignition while popping into a shop. Really lazy people would even leave the motor running.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have never done that. My "key" stays in my pocket when in or out of the vehicle. I always lock it even at home


 
 
 
 


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  #1880317 10-Oct-2017 12:41
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Rikkitic:

 

How old am I? I actually lived in a time when it was quite normal to leave your keys in the ignition while popping into a shop. Really lazy people would even leave the motor running.

 

 

 

Not lazy - they're just extending the life of their battery, starter motor and ring gear!

 

 


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  #1880321 10-Oct-2017 12:44
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kryptonjohn:

 

There's been a few terrible crashes lately after police chases, and one common factor seems to be stolen cars.

 

Which made me wonder... given that most cars have come with transponder keys and immobilisers for decades now, how come so many cars are still being stolen? Can the immobiliser be simply defeated by these teenage car thieves?

 

 

 

 

Transponder keys not for decades, they have only really come to be close to standard in the last few, but before that they were on higher end cars, the same with immobilisers, by no means standard until more recently.

 

As other have said, a lot of the time they also break into the house and just take the keys, transponder and all.


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  #1880323 10-Oct-2017 12:52
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My 2004 has a keyless system, long as I have the "card" on me - thing is, its not true proximity because if I start the car, then walk away and someone drives off, the car will keep going until its turned off. Then theyre stuffed because it wont turn on again.

 

 

 

It will be older vehicles as mentioned that are getting stolen by joy riders.





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  #1880328 10-Oct-2017 13:03
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We were burgled earlier this year.  Thieves stole the transponder key for one of of the cars (which was in the garage).  But they never took the car.

 

I think the were emptying drawers into bags without looking.  They also stole some remote controls without taking the components they controlled.

 

We have a key cabinet now and have gone full cray cray on security systems. However, my paintball sentry gun was vetoed.

 

 





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  #1880345 10-Oct-2017 13:47
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dickytim:

 

 

 

Transponder keys not for decades, they have only really come to be close to standard in the last few, but before that they were on higher end cars, the same with immobilisers, by no means standard until more recently.

 

As other have said, a lot of the time they also break into the house and just take the keys, transponder and all.

 

 

According to various googled unauthoritative sources transponder keys have been standard from '95 or '96. I certainly had one in my '98 Subaru as when some oik tried to steal it they smashed the ignition switch before giving up.

 

 


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  #1880346 10-Oct-2017 13:47
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This is why I never leave car keys at home when I go out. The main key is always with me regardless of whether I am using the car, and the spare is secured somewhere offsite.


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I keep a small bottle of jim beam whiskey in my cars glovebox for a potential thief. Once he drinks it hes stuffed as its been laced with antifreeze and they would not even know it drinking it. 

 

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  #1880446 10-Oct-2017 16:52
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cruxis:

 

I keep a small bottle of jim beam whiskey in my cars glovebox for a potential thief. Once he drinks it hes stuffed as its been laced with antifreeze and they would not even know it drinking it. 

 

Untill his Kidenys failed laughing

 

 

 

 

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