Elderly unlicensed driver buying a car

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#2566081 16-Sep-2020 16:44

frankv:

You probably are correct that he has Mental Health issues. Who doesn't?

I don't. Nor does anyone in my family. My daughter was a bit difficult for a time but I suspect that was due to normal navigation of the early teenage years.

I don't think it is appropriate to attack the OP, especially since you don't know the situation. There really is nothing to suggest what you are saying is correct.

Moderators should close this thread as the discussion suddenly veered way off track.

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#2566112 16-Sep-2020 17:46

Tockly:

Update:

One of the mans daughters took him to the car yard and requested that the sale is cancelled. This followed on from my phone call to the yard, so the sale has been cancelled and the funds have been returned. It also came out that the yard knew he had no license but still allowed him to take the car for a test drive!!

His license was cancelled by his GP after an accident two years ago, however he still refuses to believe that this has happened.

His daughter explained at length that he is not allowed to drive as he has no license and that in no way shape or form would she be driving him around in a car of that type. His daughter also made him read the information on the NZTA website out loud to her so she could hear him actually read the information. If this fully sinks in only time will tell. However he was still extremely rude to her and basically acted like a two year old. But at least he's not driving, for now!!

As a number of you have asked, yes this man has suffered a major head injury in the past and we believe also in the early stages of dementia. His wife passed away coming up three years ago next month and he is getting increasingly more difficult to handle. He recently had a knee replacement done and they had to station a nurse by his bed 24 hrs as he kept getting up and walking off!! At that time he was tested by the mental health team, however he quickly cottoned on to what was going on and basically gave them the answers that they wanted!! He's a very smart man. He has been described by a family member as "mental, but not dumb!!"

I recently installed a landline phone for hard of hearing people and removed his old cordless phone. I talked to him about what I was doing and that I was taking the cordless phone away so he didn't get confused about which phone to use. He acknowledge that I was doing this and understood what I had said as he repeated it back to me. unfortunately he then proceeded to tell all his friends and family that I had stolen the phone from him and was taking money from his bank account! He's since had his phone disconnected as he stopped paying the bill as Spark were ripping him off and were listening to his calls!

As mentioned he's smart enough to know how far he can push things without actually getting the attention of the health authorities and Police. Until he does get there attention there is little they can do.

Thanks for all the suggestions. Hopefully things will quieten down for a bit till the next thing he does!

Sounds like a good outcome even if some goodwill was burnt through.

Nice that he was able to get his money back.

Pritty shocking that the car yard knowingly let an unlicensed driver take one of their cars for a test drive. Pritty high risk from their end... Their insurance was likely voided. And they don't have any way of knowing that he was not forbidden to drive which could lead to their car getting impounded.

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#2567351 18-Sep-2020 10:41

I think if car-yards stopped selling cars to unlicensed people, 50% of the car yards in South Auckland would go out of business.

Civic duty and morals ahead of money is a bygone concept. Modern "kiwis" put money ahead of everything else.

Re Dementia, you can't reason with dementia victims, even if they are genuinely willing and compliant, they just don't remember the conversation. Thinking people are stealing from them is common because they just can't recall why something has changed/moved or gone. Loosing their emotional filter is not uncommon either.

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#2567393 18-Sep-2020 11:54

tripper1000:

Thinking people are stealing from them is common because they just can't recall why something has changed/moved or gone.

Not only that, but because they think stuff is being stolen, they hide it. Then they forget that they hid it, which increases their belief that they're being stolen from.

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#2567427 18-Sep-2020 12:13

It is exactly because of threads like these that I advocate melting down anyone over 60 for soap.

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#2567429 18-Sep-2020 12:16

muppet:

It is exactly because of threads like these that I advocate melting down anyone over 60 for soap.

Those of us already over 60 are pleased that you too will qualify at some point in the future 😀

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#2567437 18-Sep-2020 12:27

allan:

muppet:

It is exactly because of threads like these that I advocate melting down anyone over 60 for soap.

Those of us already over 60 are pleased that you too will qualify at some point in the future 😀

Bit rude to assume I'm not going to self melt-o-late when I get to 59.99 isn't it?

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#2567443 18-Sep-2020 12:50

>It is exactly because of threads like these that I advocate melting down anyone over 60 for soap.<

Shades of Logan's Run? 😁

Besides, if that happened Geekzone would lose half its members 🤓

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#2567480 18-Sep-2020 13:38

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#2567491 18-Sep-2020 13:52

muppet:

It is exactly because of threads like these that I advocate melting down anyone over 60 for soap.

I’d only be good for Solvol - gritty and can be abrasive - not many people use it these days.

Sometimes I just sit and think. Other times I just sit.

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#2567621 18-Sep-2020 14:40

muppet: It is exactly because of threads like these that I advocate melting down anyone over 60 for soap.

You'll get to vote on this at the up coming referendum. I think you put it more honestly the succinctly than many of the advocates.

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#2567675 18-Sep-2020 15:36

muppet:

It is exactly because of threads like these that I advocate melting down anyone over 60 for soap.

good god, Ive only got less than 1 year left.
In a year I'll be a decrepit dribbling mess then , only coming out of the house to frighten the local children ?

Not sure anyone wants old people soap. They'll want soap from fresh young & healthy types

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#2567686 18-Sep-2020 15:47

IMHO, people over 60 are no more trouble than teenagers. So I advocate compulsory saponification at age 12.99. As a bonus, in another 47 years, the GOB (grumpy old buggers) problem will be solved.

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#2567695 18-Sep-2020 16:02

Ya'll take the steering wheel out ma cold, dead hands!! 🤠

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#2567700 18-Sep-2020 16:03

This is a common problem in NZ because everyone drives. Imo the Dementia Association will be used to dealing with exactly this on a frequent basis. Call them for family support.

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