Bus lane going outside my house residential area.

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#2814773 17-Nov-2021 18:16

RUKI, are you a single driveway house?

Another comment not related to post, I’ll be interested to see how a congested two lane road at around 5pm flows, when it is made a single lane road at that time, for cars. Though it goes to single lane further up road, so guessing the same as when cars have to merge back to single lane.

Luckily in that area I can avoid needing to be on road around that time generally.

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#2814774 17-Nov-2021 18:24

eracode:

Some parts of Auckland have 'resident permit parking'.

https://at.govt.nz/driving-parking/parking-permits/resident-parking-permits/

Christchurch City Council has changed their policy, but will honour it for existing residents ones. Looks like if they sell house new buyer will not be able to continue.

https://ccc.govt.nz/transport/parking/residents-parking-outside-your-property

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#2814866 17-Nov-2021 20:40

rugrat:

Just saw pamphlet in my letter box on way out. No one will be able to park outside house 3pm-6pm weekdays, and 10am-2pm Saturdays.

Will send feedback, but guessing predetermined decision.

I have a shared driveway. Neighbours have more cars then they can park in their area, if goes ahead I will have constant arguments with them.

If we both have trades people doing work in our houses, where are they suppose to park? And same with guests.

I'm not sure, but it seems that you think the Council should provide on-street parking. This is neither their role, or their responsibility.

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#2814867 17-Nov-2021 20:41

rugrat:

richms:

This is a problem when you choose housing without sufficient parking available to you.

Choices are, sell some cars, store them off site somewhere else, move somewhere that has more parking available or do the thing where you shuffle them over the other side of the road during the day. The street outside is not exclusively yours for parking so what do you do when other people have taken all the parks on it?

HEY, I have sufficient parking, I only have ONE car. My neighbours have extended family, they have to many cars.

Sorry for yelling, but it appears the above response is trying to blame me for my situation.

In this case - the problem is possibly your neighbours - not the council nor the bus lane.

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#2814869 17-Nov-2021 20:47

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Inphinity:

I'm not sure you understand the issue, OP.
Now that there's a bus lane, both you and your neighbours can sell your cars and bus everywhere. It's so super convenient. The tradies and visitors can bus to see you now, too.

.. do I really need sarcasm tags?

Yeah - and doing a week's shop at Pak n Save by bus is great fun.

When I was much younger my (then) seventy-odd year old grandmother would walk to the local supermarket and purchase groceries and bring them home with her trundler thing with wheels on... Where there is a will, there is a way...

We now live in a time where you can go online and the groceries magically appear on your doorstep... It isn't an issue...

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#2814893 17-Nov-2021 21:16

DaveDog:

When I was much younger my (then) seventy-odd year old grandmother would walk to the local supermarket and purchase groceries and bring them home with her trundler thing with wheels on... Where there is a will, there is a way...

We now live in a time where you can go online and the groceries magically appear on your doorstep... It isn't an issue...

Yep, I’ll just walk with trundler, to local supermarket.

Wait, https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/long-wait-supermarket

Next Supermarket is 30 minutes plus walk, each direction.

Why would I spend $14 on delivery when I can get to Supermarket and back for a couple dollars petrol.

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#2814907 17-Nov-2021 21:23

rugrat:

richms:

This is a problem when you choose housing without sufficient parking available to you.

Choices are, sell some cars, store them off site somewhere else, move somewhere that has more parking available or do the thing where you shuffle them over the other side of the road during the day. The street outside is not exclusively yours for parking so what do you do when other people have taken all the parks on it?

HEY, I have sufficient parking, I only have ONE car. My neighbours have extended family, they have to many cars.

Sorry for yelling, but it appears the above response is trying to blame me for my situation.

I'm not sure how the situation with your neighbours is anyone else's problem? It doesn't make it easy but it's between you and your neighbour to resolve.

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#2814915 17-Nov-2021 21:30

rugrat:

DaveDog:

When I was much younger my (then) seventy-odd year old grandmother would walk to the local supermarket and purchase groceries and bring them home with her trundler thing with wheels on... Where there is a will, there is a way...

We now live in a time where you can go online and the groceries magically appear on your doorstep... It isn't an issue...

Yep, I’ll just walk with trundler, to local supermarket.

Wait, https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/long-wait-supermarket

Next Supermarket is 30 minutes plus walk, each direction.

Why would I spend $14 on delivery when I can get to Supermarket and back for a couple dollars petrol.

Those that choose not to own cars will easily opt for the delivery. That being said - if you think the price of heading to the supermarket is simply the price of the gas, you should do some sums on the cost of car ownership...

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#2814923 17-Nov-2021 21:44

DaveDog:

When I was much younger my (then) seventy-odd year old grandmother would walk to the local supermarket and purchase groceries and bring them home with her trundler thing with wheels on... Where there is a will, there is a way...

So you’d be happy to do that yourself, would you? Such platitudes. Gimme a break.

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#2814928 17-Nov-2021 22:06

DaveDog:

Those that choose not to own cars will easily opt for the delivery. That being said - if you think the price of heading to the supermarket is simply the price of the gas, you should do some sums on the cost of car ownership...

You seem to be anti car? Yes if I was just used the car for Supermarket shopping it would be ridiculous.

Wait the car does more trips then the supermarket. Non money wise gives me 1000’s of extra hours to do other things, let’s me pick up other people, parents in home so helps improves their lives.

Money wise, no public transport when finish work. Taxi around $20. 100x52=$5200 a year and that’s just taxi to get home from work. Had car for 7 years, cost me no where near $36000 to buy.

Also have 10 year cost free program, warrant fitness, servicing, mechanical repairs all free.

One size doesn’t necessary fit all. I’m not anti bus, they are definitely suitable for a lot of people situations, not mine though.

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#2814929 17-Nov-2021 22:10

$14 is less the the the petrol and personal time it would take to get to the supermarket and back once a week. and you dont have to deal with idiots and covid.

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#2814933 17-Nov-2021 22:27

Jase2985:

$14 is less the the the petrol and personal time it would take to get to the supermarket and back once a week. and you dont have to deal with idiots and covid.

Is everyone here going to say everyone should get their groceries by delivery?

If I’m on a day off, my time isn’t earning me income, so no opportunity cost in spending time shopping. I get some satisfaction from it, doesn’t feel like work.

COVID doesn’t mean life stops, is there going to be no social interaction with anyone outside work in future?

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#2815048 18-Nov-2021 09:42

Our cities need more public transport.

A lot of people have cars that otherwise wouldn't if there were decent public transport options available to them that got them to their destination at least as quick as by private vehicle but ideally, quicker. Priority bus lanes that allow buses to bypass grid locked streets do help convince people to switch their daily commute to public transport.

I'm sorry you're losing the parking outside your house on the street but this is what our cities need more of.

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#2815067 18-Nov-2021 10:10

I presume that there's an off street park for one car at least for your neighbour(s)?

Serious question - If you had a different neighbour that only had one car (or none at all) - would you still be as annoyed/upset by the bus lane and loss of on-street parking during the stated hours?

From my reading of the thread so far, I think your main issue appears to be more related to how you think your neighbour will behave if the proposed bus lane goes ahead.

For me personally (no shared driveway, but I do have one off-street park), the loss of on-street parking between 3-6pm during weekdays wouldn't be a big deal as I'm at work and don't get guests during this time - but I'd be much more annoyed with the Saturday timing..

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#2815294 18-Nov-2021 13:38

Blurtie:

I presume that there's an off street park for one car at least for your neighbour(s)?

Serious question - If you had a different neighbour that only had one car (or none at all) - would you still be as annoyed/upset by the bus lane and loss of on-street parking during the stated hours?

From my reading of the thread so far, I think your main issue appears to be more related to how you think your neighbour will behave if the proposed bus lane goes ahead.

Neighbour can comfortably fit three cars in their space, yet some how they still end up blocking driveway from time to time. Just concerned how no parking on street will effect this.

Sometimes one will come home, be the first and just stop their car past their gate blocking next person that arrives, meaning only one car in their space, so they even block each other off from getting into their space.

Yes, I am more concerned about how neighbour will behave if street parking lost, will I be able to get my car out when leaving for work? And coming home will garage be blocked?

Neighbour arguments can get out of hand, there was a stabbing in Christchurch yesterday over a rubbish row.

https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-christchurch/christchurch-stabbing-witness-says-fight-started-over-rubbish-row

I note that people say that council not responsible for on street parking, which is legally correct, but also the removal of it is going to cause more conflict situations between neighbours.

I rang the council yesterday to actually ask if I’m going to lose car parking, or is it just between Curletts Road and Wrights Road, as pamphlet said to ring anytime, still waiting for call back.

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